[WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

Marc Riddell michaeldavid86 at comcast.net
Sat Oct 18 16:25:37 UTC 2008


> 2008/10/18 David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com>
> 
>> Changing a previously widely accepted standard should take much wider
>> discussion than this has received, and over a longer period of time.
>> It's very easy at Wikipedia for a few people to move in fast and get
>> something changed; the test is whether it hold up under subsequent
>> scrutiny. And even actual consent ahead of time may change quite
>> rapidly once people truly see the implications on a large scale in the
>> encyclopedia.
>> 
on 10/18/08 11:30 AM, Zoney at zoney.ie at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
> Just the usual problems with any decision making at Wikipedia. The paradigm
> is inherently flawed, and the word consensus is completely abused and given
> a non-standard definition at Wikipedia.
> 
> Most decisions made on Wikipedia are *not* by consensus, according to the
> proper definition.
> 
> Usually a majority of discussion participants, or a dedicated group of
> individuals, get their way just through force, persuasiveness, bullying and
> wikilawyering. There are even hinderances to broadening discussion, you
> might be "canvassing".
> 
Yep to all of this, Zoney. But there are those who like, and take full
advantage of, the lack of a more stable process. It is going to take some
strong leadership to change this.

Marc




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