[WikiEN-l] "I want to at least kill the responsible person."

Wily D wilydoppelganger at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 18:11:55 UTC 2008

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15/02/2008, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > The point is that we are a neutral encyclopaedia and those images have
>  >  encyclopaedic value
>  Encyclopaedic just means that they should go in the encyclopaedia
>  somewhere; but not necessarily in the Mohammad article. The censorship
>  policy just says that we don't remove things from the entire
>  wikipedia, not that we don't move it from any particular article.
>  At present, the wikipedia is far from neutral here; for example, the
>  Muhammad in Encyclopedia Britannica has only a single veiled image in
>  18 pages, whereas the wikipedia has 4, and most of them are unveiled.
>  I don't think you can find many articles on Muhammad with lots of
>  images in; or nobody has so far.
>  Since NPOV policy says that the wikipedia is supposed to avoid
>  overemphasis, it can be argued that compared to the EB we
>  significantly overemphasise these images, particularly the unveiled
>  ones.
>  Towing the line with the EB would help get a lot of more moderate
>  Moslems off the back of the wikipedia, but if the wikipedia is 'taking
>  a stand'- in either direction away from the EB, then we're really
>  making a political statement. But what policy is there that says that
>  the wikipedia should make political statements?
>  --
>  -Ian Woollard
>  We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. If we lived in a perfectly
>  imperfect world things would be a lot better.
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So far as I know, EB makes no pretense of trying to be neutral - in
all likely, we shouldn't be copying their lead.  Their goals and our
goals are broadly similar, but the nitty-gritty remains important.


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