[WikiEN-l] NOR contradicts NPOV

[CrustyBush]

I hope you'll forgive me - I've joined this mailing list half-way through
this discussion. I am interested in what's being said, but am having a hard
time trying to summarize it in my head.

If I'm right, Phil is complaining that NOR contradicts NPOV because someone
won't necessarily be able to defend themselves in their article because what
they say (eg through a letter) will be OR, and therefore the article won't
have NPOV?

And then there's the discussion about whether the subject of an article can
request the permanent deletion of that article? But then of course we'll
have the scenario where only generally positive articles remain. Can't we
just have it so that they insist that Wikipedia correct factual errors about
themselves?

And what's all this about spoiler warnings? Has there been a recent policy
change? Where does one find out about these things?

Thank you for being patient! I look forward to participating in the mailing
list constructively.