[WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp

[Soxred93]

Maybe we can set it for only 1 day, but use a JS hack to say that  
it's indefinite. That might get the word out to them. :)

X!

On Dec 25, 2008, at 5:12 AM [Dec 25, 2008 ], Martijn Hoekstra wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Ian Woollard  
> <ian.woollard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25/12/2008, Soxred93 <soxred93 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If we rangeblock all of Verizon, we're giving Grawp exactly what he
>>> wants. He wants to cause disruption, and causing a huge  
>>> rangeblock is
>>> success for him.
>>
>> It doesn't matter what he does or doesn't want. It only matters what
>> the wikipedia wants. Probably rangeblocking Verizon would be bad for
>> the Wikipedia's reputation ("Anyone can edit except for Verizon
>> users!"), Verizon would have to be incredibly unresponsive and acting
>> in incredibly bad faith to have to/really want to do that, but it
>> remains a possibility.
>>
>> There might be a better case though for automatically, temporarily,
>> black holing or edit blocking or simply delaying the edits (until a
>> human can hand check them) of individual IPs/accounts from  
>> anywhere on
>> the internet that engage in certain broad patterns of activity.
>>
>> The important thing is to minimise the length/number of times that  
>> any
>> particular IP is able to engage in Grawp-like or other stereotypic
>> behaviour. While he/she/they would be able to soon find another  
>> IP, it
>> significantly mitigates the damage that can be done, and minimises  
>> the
>> cleanup.
>>
>>> X!
>>
>> --
>> -Ian Woollard
>>
>> We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. Life in a perfectly
>> imperfect world would be much better.
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> ]
> It seems hard to believe that Verizon would let such a rangeblock sit
> for long. I think the only message we need to get over to them is
> "dude, we're not kidding. We don't want to rangeblock your entire ISP,
> but this one person who has an internet account with you is causing us
> major headaches. Because of your dynamic IP adresses, we are unable to
> deal with it on an individual level. We are open to suggestions on how
> we can solve the problem, but if you are really not willing to help us
> out here, we simply have no other choise but to block every IP adress
> in your range from editing, as much as we'd hate to do that"
>
> I can't believe that bigwigs at Verizon would be willing to let that
> happen, the question is just how to get through to the right people
> that can do something about it.
>
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