[WikiEN-l] Has an article in a paper encyclopedia, but it's "Not Notable"
Sigvat Kuekiatngam Stensholt
st09039 at mi.uib.no
Tue Dec 2 13:56:35 UTC 2008
I am in one sense amused, in another sense astonished, that Ellen
Hambro, the leader of what is effectively the Norwegian Environmental
Protection Agency, up for AFD, and even more astonished to see some long
time contributors voting to delete it.
Here is a fact: Ellen Hambro is covered in a paper encyclopedia, "Store
norske leksikon", which is the largest, and most well-known of all
contemporary general-purpose Norwegian encyclopedias written on 15
volumes of paper.
And yet I see people rejecting this encyclopedia as "not intellectually
independent" and "crypto-official".
I would not be writing this list if this were a one-off occurrence, but
this is the third time in only a few weeks that I have seen encyclopedia
subjects (and this means: has a separate article in a general-purpose
paper encyclopedia) nominated for deletion. The other two are the
articles [[Glamour (presentation)]] and [[Star Shipping]], the latter
which was nominated for *speedy* deletion, and had that speedy tag stuck
on it for several hours.
There comes a point when we need to do a reality check. The reality is
that we are in danger of deleting a subject which a commercial
general-purpose print encyclopedia has deemed notable enough to be
within their limited pages. Deleting any of these articles will be an
action more profound than deleting Mzoli's, Terry Shannon, or Pownce
would ever be.
I fear that the zeal to delete articles in the name of enforcing
policies and the notability guidelines are starting to encroach upon the
fundamentals Wikipedia's mission to be an encyclopedia. We cannot
possibly claim to be comprehensive if we start deleting subjects covered
in the very works we want to surpass. I really don't consider myself an
"inclusionist", but is it really all that "inclusionist" to support
keeping subjects traditionally covered by encyclopedias?
Sjakkalle
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