[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

Risker risker.wp at gmail.com
Fri Nov 30 00:51:08 UTC 2007


Alec, I am going to say something you will not like, but please keep in mind
that our positions are very similar.

Please stop asking about who knew what when.  The answers are not going to
come by your shouting louder or more frequently. Accept that, even if anyone
discussed potential blocks in detail with Durova, those people are not going
to step forth.  There is absolutely no motivation for them to do so, and
plenty of reason for them to not do so.  One of them is the constant
shouting that, whether you and others intend it that way, comes across as a
cry for punishment.

It does not matter.  The "chilling effect" that is mentioned in the Arbcom
principles on this case cuts both ways.  Go and read ANI and AN - there are
more admins than ever asking for reviews of blocks, discussing alternate
ways of managing challenging editors, and reviewing allegations of
sockpuppetry in an open manner.  The desired result has occurred without
needing to know whether or not certain individuals knew more than they're
owning up to.

Look for the big picture - a week ago, what would your desired outcome be?
If your answer is "justice," you're in the wrong place.  Wikipedia isn't
about justice.  It's about the collaborative writing of an encyclopedia.
For a while there, people forgot about that to a greater or lesser extent;
but things are starting to turn around.  At worst, Giano will be "reminded."
Durova has given up the bit - the bit which we keep hearing is "no big
deal." And admins and editors are working to resolve problems in a less
confrontational, more collaborative way.  It is time to work on filling in
the gaps that were exposed, not to worry them until they become chasms.

Risker



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