[WikiEN-l] Reflections on the end of the spoiler wars

David Goodman dgoodmanny at gmail.com
Tue Nov 20 04:21:39 UTC 2007


How: "the NYT terminated its review at this point? " why is that
encyclopedic information? --we link to the review if anyone wants to
see such details as where the NYT stopped. I can see that a mention of
what scenes were in the producer's trailer might be relevant.


On 11/19/07, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 19/11/2007, Ken Arromdee <arromdee at rahul.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, David Goodman wrote:
> > > That is saying we should report whatever a reviewer says, rather than
> > > whatever of it is encyclopedic. If 5 reviewers put spoilers in 5
> > > different places, do we include all of them?
> >
> > Only if we're quoting the reviewers' entire reviews.  Since our article is
> > probably not going to be exactly like each reviewer's article, even in
> > structure (let alone in actual words), we need not put spoiler warnings in
> > the exact same places, if "the exact same places" is even meaningful
> > considering that it's a review and not an encyclopedia article.
>
>
> An interesting theory that they would have to be exactly the same. One not
> backed up, in any way, by the core policies of the wikipedia however.
>
> Ultimately, disagreements among sufficiently knowledgeable people come about
> due to lack of shared values. If you don't agree with the core values of the
> wikipedia, why are you here?
>
> If a notable reviewer writing in a reliable source points to some set of
> information in their piece and labels it 'spoiler' and that information is
> also contained in the wikipedia then that information verifiably and notably
> is. Under the core values it is not wrong to tag or otherwise label that
> information as such in the wikipedia.
>
> --
> -Ian Woollard
>
> We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. If we lived in a perfectly
> imperfect world things would be a lot better.
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