[WikiEN-l] Featured editors?

Relata Refero refero.relata at gmail.com
Wed Nov 14 12:27:28 UTC 2007


Just to repeat: the original edits by that IP were not trolling, but
relevant contributions to the discussion at WT:SOCK, but put with a
directness - not drama - that most of us would have avoided.
Of the subsequent edits before he was blocked, I didn't see any 'pushing' of
the COIanalyst theory. The most he said was "As a consultant with what looks
to be money riding on your participation in this endeavor" to Jehochman,
which, as has been pointed out on AN/I, is an unfortunate interpretation
that could be made by someone glancing through Jehochman's userpage, if
someone hadn't read the subpage in which he addresses those issues.
It's precisely the lack of nuance that causes this to be interpreted in the
manner in which Guy has which has concerned so many people. This is not
sympathizing with disruptive users, this is not seeking to disrupt the
project, this is simply a concern that some people are getting so heated
that they are losing some of their judgment.
So, yes. Under these circumstances I would have hoped for more than "five or
ten seconds". I would have hoped for a quiet, drama- and hyperbole-free
discussion of whether the IP's edits were block-worthy, and then we could
have moved on. That this did not happen was not because of the IP.

RR

On Nov 14, 2007 4:29 AM, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net>
wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:41:12 -0500, "Alec Conroy"
> <alecmconroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >See, I couldn't disagree more.  People need to consider something,
> >mull it over, discuss it over--  they don't just need to be told the
> >right answer.  That's the wiki process for you-- there's much talking
> >involved.  If you don't want to have your behavior subjected to
> >good-faith oversight, ya ought not be in the game, I'm afraid.  9
> >times out of 10, everybody will conclude that that everything was
> >fine.
>
> So you say.  Me, I call that pointless drama.  An anonymous editor
> (with trolling edits) comes along to push a mad theory originating
> with a known COI spammer aiming to undermine Wikipedia for his own
> commercial ends.  Hmmmmm.  How long should "people" need to discuss
> that do you think?  Five seconds?  Ten maybe?
>
> Guy (JzG)
> --
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>
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