[WikiEN-l] I believe I called this some time ago...
Ken Arromdee
arromdee at rahul.net
Sat Nov 10 16:45:01 UTC 2007
Stating that some people were overly eager to get rid of web comics is a vast
understatement.
The whole thing was full of rampant ignoring of consensus, administrators
ignoring rules in order to push a delete through (see the Starslip Cris
deletion, a WP:POINT that actually proved its point), speedy deletions of
articles that don't deserve it, meat puppets used by admins for deletion but
rejected when used against deletion, discussions closed with such short
notice that anyone not immediately aware of them has no practical chance to
object, mass deletions which are difficult to contest all at once (sound
familiar, spoiler people?), deletion of the awards article to justify the
deletion of other articles that mention the award, etc.
Sure, there are people who don't understand notability, and some of the
articles deleted actually weren't notable. But any indiscriminate deletion
is going to hit some deserving targets, simply because there are a lot of
targets. And sure, some of the damage was fixed later on (the awards
article did return). It's still a massive abuse of Wikipedia process. I
suggest reading through the wikinews talk/comment pages, ignoring the fact that
a lot of the posters there don't understand notability, and instead focusing
instead on the other complaints. There are plenty of them, and a good
chunk of them are perfectly valid.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_fundraiser_highlights_webcomic_community%27s_frustration_with_Wikipedia_guidelines
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Wikimedia_fundraiser_highlights_webcomic_community%27s_frustration_with_Wikipedia_guidelines
Also see
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Wikimedia_fundraiser_highlights_webcomic_community%27s_frustration_with_Wikipedia_guidelines#The_problem_is_not_the_notability_standard
where one poster who does understand notability points out that what is
really needed is for the notability rules simply to be followed, not changed.
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