[WikiEN-l] A BADSITES RfA piling-on

Gracenotes wikigracenotes at gmail.com
Mon May 28 22:47:00 UTC 2007


"*all* these attack sites claim to have the intent of improving WP."

Sorry... that's not what I said. I was only talking about external sites
wherein one
can locate, either by browsing or by searching, personal attacks made
against Wikipedians without the intent of improving Wikipedia (and
intentions
have to be discerned, not hand-fed), by any patron of that site. What the
sites
claim is a red herring that has little bearing on my response.

To assume that I support linking to "attack sites" from an illogical
loophole in my
wording seems odd to me. In a sense, DennyColt changed the issue from
"attack
links" to "attack sites". I wish we could change it back again.

--Gracenotes

On 5/28/07, Slim Virgin <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/28/07, Phil Sandifer <Snowspinner at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >
> > On May 28, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Slim Virgin wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/28/07, Blu Aardvark <jeffrey.latham at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Admins have no obligation to protect other editors.
> > >
> > > That is where we fundamentally disagree. Admins are there to protect
> > > the encyclopedia and the people who create it. We can't offer much
> > > protection, it's true, but we *can* remove links to websites set up
> > > for the sole purpose of making those people feel miserable.
> >
> > And Gracenotes, in my reading of his RFA, does not disagree with
> > this. But in the face of such blinding idiocy as Will Beback's
> > removing citations to reliable sources, is it any wonder that he's a
> > little suspicious of the merits of a bright line distinction here?
> >
> It's unfair to keep on mentioning that RfA because the candidate's not
> here to defend himself, but on the other hand, I'm reluctant to let
> some of these comments stand. Gracenotes's replies about this and
> other issues worried me because they seemed evasive. For example: "I
> suppose you mean attack sites as those in which personal attacks are
> made against Wikipedians, without the intent of improving Wikipedia."
> That set off alarm bells for me, because *all* these attack sites
> claim to have the intent of improving WP.
>
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