[WikiEN-l] Another"BADSITES"controversy

[Fred Bauder]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Risker [mailto:risker.wp at gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:21 PM
>To: 'English Wikipedia'
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Another"BADSITES"controversy
>
>Ah yes, I remember the last Request for Clarification. It didn't
>particularly go the way of the supporters of the "deleters," particularly
>when it became clear that subsequent ArbComm decisions specifically decided
>against the same principles. That does not appear to have had any
>particular effect on the determination of some people (well-intentioned
>though they undoubtedly are) to have this purported practice codified into
>policy. Is there a reason to believe that a second Request for
>Clarification will have a different result?
>
>Risker

Yes, we all need to keep plugging away. Wikipedia isn't going to go away, why should we? Jawboning is a lot better than a long drawn out arbitration case.

Fred

>On 5/28/07, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Ray Saintonge [mailto:saintonge at telus.net]
>> >Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:14 AM
>> >To: 'English Wikipedia'
>> >Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Another "BADSITES" controversy
>> >
>> >John Lee wrote:
>> >
>> >>I think the Arbcom should clarify their decision to say that "attack
>> sites"
>> >>refers to sites composed of nothing but attacks - Brandt's Hive Mind
>> site is
>> >>probably a good example - and not just sites which contain attacks but
>> also
>> >>contain other content.
>> >>
>> >Not at all!! Judges do not revisit their past decisions unless there is
>> >a clear error. Any case is decided on the basis of specific facts. To
>> >go back now to change the ruling would only strenghthen the notion that
>> >Arbcom rulings form legal precedents. I don't know if we are ready for
>> >that.
>> >
>> >Ec
>>
>>
>> You can ask for clarification at
>> Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Requests_for_clarification
>>
>> I think what you will be told is that the language applies only to the
>> site involved in the MONGO case. However there is a general principle which
>> lies behind Wikipedia:No personal attacks that we should protect our users
>> from harassment, in a common sense way.
>>
>> Fred
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