[WikiEN-l] Getting hammered in a tv interview is not fun

[MacGyverMagic/Mgm]

The notability bar is controversial enough as it is.
Requiring the subject to have a published biography for example is a bad
idea.

We shouldn't be punishing the people who follow the rules by using other
reliable sources for the actions by people who refuse to follow the rules
and don't use ANY sources at all. We should simply make it easier to remove
or not post unsourced material in the first place and Stable versions will
help with that.

Mgm


On 3/30/07, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like the "raise the notability bar" idea that Doc has, and perhaps Slim
> Virgin's threshhold might be the right course.  I recently stumbled into a
> biography stub on a person I would certainly have thought was not
> particularly notable. The article required about five minutes of work to
> clean up - and thought that would be the end of it.  As it turns out, it
> was
> loaded with commercial links and open proxy editors (some of whom were
> apparently being paid to add the commercial links). So what started out to
> be a five minute project took several hours of work. I am sure there are
> thousands of articles like this, and it is demotivating to editors to have
> to work this hard to clean up an article that is of questionable value in
> the first place.
>
> Risker
>
>
>
> On 3/29/07, Stan Shebs <stanshebs at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Slim Virgin wrote:
> > > On 3/29/07, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:
> > >
> > >> It needs to be clear up and down the line that the arbitration
> > committee will support people who remove unsourced information, as long
> as
> > they are nice about it. But these things should never come to us, people
> who
> > resist removal of unsourced information should be clued in long before
> it
> > comes to that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > The other solution is to stop publishing biographies of living
> > > persons, or at least to offer subjects deletion on request.
> > >
> > > By hosting living bios, and by inviting anyone in the world to edit
> > > them, we're encouraging bad editing in a quantity we have no hope of
> > > controlling.
> > >
> > Wouldn't really work though, because people would just add the
> > problematic material in other articles. I don't have any bios on my
> > watchlist these days, but still see additions of hearsay about celebs
> > visiting cities and national parks, music video shoots in the desert,
> > and the like.
> >
> > Stan
> >
> >
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