[WikiEN-l] WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOR and WP:ATT

[Slim Virgin]

On 3/21/07, Jeff Raymond <jeff.raymond at internationalhouseofbacon.com> wrote:
>
> Slim Virgin wrote:
> >
> > I can't say why you didn't know about it, Jeff. It was talked about in
> > many different places; around 170 editors had edited it by the time it
> > went live, and nearly 300 had posted on the talk page. Plus it was
> > mentioned several times on V and NOR talk -- e.g. when editors would
> > post with a complaint about the policies, someone would say check out
> > the proposal at ATT which deals with this. It really *was* widely
> > discussed.
>
> Sure.  I don't disagree.  BUT people still didn't notice.  If it's not
> easy for well-established Wikiaddicts to know about such a proposal,
> what's going to happen?

You posted on the ATT talk page on February 16 just as it was going
live. You said it "looks excellent" and that you were about to start
the process of "breaking apart" RS, and you seemed to want to speed up
(not slow down) the development of the ATT/FAQ page to replace RS.
>
> I'm in the process of trying to get [[Wikipedia:Article inclusion]] into
> something worthwhile.  Will it work?  Damned if I know, but I'm trying.
> But I also know that I need to make sure I touch as many people as
> possible to get the consensus to make it what it will end up being.  I'm
> not sure if that really happened w/ATT.

I can only keep repeating that it did. Look, I have nothing to do with
the image policies. They're on my watchlist, but I almost never check
things carefully. Does that mean I should now march up to the Fair Use
policy and declare that it was developed without my explicit consent
and knowledge, and that it's therefore arguably invalid, because no
alerts were posted in advance of it being tightened and changed? That
would clearly be absurd.

The bottom line is that editors tend to specialize in different areas,
and if I want to keep track of changes in another area (fair use
policy, say), I have to go there and be attentive. I can't ask to be
spoonfed.

Sarah
>
> >> We keep harkening back to BLP, which was really kind of rushed and kind
> >> of
> >> blindsided a lot of people.
> >
> > No, it didn't. Quite the reverse.
>
> Really?  You and I edit in amazingly different areas, so maybe that's why
> you think it's the reverse.  My experience is quite different.
>
> -Jeff
>
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