[WikiEN-l] Attack Site Wars, Episode VII... The Return of the Essjay

[The Cunctator]

On 6/27/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> Headline on CNN right now is "Poll: War support at new low" do we have an
> article of this poll? We write articles on events unless they are notable
> enough for the entire year rather than day.

[[American popular opinion on invasion of Iraq]]

> A notable event would be Jimbo deciding to shut down the site (wikipedia)
> for example which would IMHO only be notable enough to be mentioned on the
> article on [[Wikipedia]]. Probably the coverage would be one or two lines,
> max a paragraph. Not a full article, that can be on wikinews (maybe). Essjay
> incident however isn't even worth a single line mention on article
> namespace.
>
> I also think that Essjay article is in violation of the spirit of "right to
> vanish". I do not particularly ''like'' Essjay but this mocking of him even
> bothers me. I ask myself this question: "will I be mistreated like him if
> circumstances are right?"

The spirit of "right to vanish" is one important to MeatballWiki, not
to an encyclopedia. In fact, it contravenes the mission of Wikipedia.

Sorry, but them's the breaks.
>
>
> On 6/27/07, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jun 25, 2007, at 8:30 PM, George Herbert wrote:
> > > On 6/25/07, Anirudh <anirudhsbh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 1) An incident which has coverage (in some cases front-page) in most
> > > major US newspapers and newsmagazines rises to the level of notability
> > > under any rational interpretation of the word.
> >
> > In many cases, yes.  But actually in most cases, no.
> >
> > Here's a very big routine news story today:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6238740.stm
> >
> > Widely covered:
> > http://news.google.com/news?tab=wn&client=firefox-
> > a&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%
> > 3Aofficial&ncl=1117582711&hl=en
> >
> > But I think we can all say that this study does not deserve an
> > encyclopedia article.  It's just a routine "filler" news story.
> >
> > I think if you survey the front page of CNN or BBC or the New York
> > Times each day, you will find that the vast majority of news stories
> > are not about things which are encyclopedic in nature, and we end up
> > not writing about most of them.
> >
> > This may or may not have relevance in the EssJay notability debate,
> > but just saying "it was in a lot of newspapers" doesn't really help
> > settle the issue.
> >
> > --Jimbo
> >
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