[WikiEN-l] Blog Entries (Bauer fork)

[The Cunctator]

On 6/24/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/24/07, The Cunctator <cunctator at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 3/28/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 3/28/07, Philip Sandifer <snowspinner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Stephen Bain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Your implication that she is always a reliable source about
> publishing
> > > > > is as misguided as the assertion you are arguing against, that she
> > > > > never is. A big problem is that you fail to distinguish that for
> which
> > > > > she is a reliable source.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Her claims on matters related to publishing are sufficiently
> > > > significant that they can reasonably be reported. Where there is
> > > > disagreement, they should be clearly attributed to her point of
> view.
> > > > > Her blog is *always* a great source for her opinion. It may or may
> not
> > > > > be a reliable source for fact, and is probably not most of the
> time,
> > > > > no matter how often she's actually right.
> > > >
> > > > And her opinion on publishing matters is worth including. One such
> > > > notable opinion is "Barbara Bauer is a fraud."
> > > >
> > > > > As to your point about where her words are published, yes it does
> make
> > > > > a difference. When what she says comes from an interview and is
> > > > > published by an intermediary, we have that intermediary's
> reliability
> > > > > to hang our hat on. When what she says is delivered in a lecture,
> we
> > > > > have the host's reliability to hang our hat on.
> > > >
> > > > Nonsense. When I invite a speaker to the University of Florida to
> > > > give a lecture at a conference, I don't intend our invitation to be
> a
> > > > warranty of their factual accuracy. Nor do we offer such a warranty
> > > > when and if we post the transcript or video of the lecture on our
> > > > website, or even in our journal. All we do is vouch for the accuracy
> > > > of the transcription and claim to its significance in some fashion.
> > > >
> > > > In the case of Teresa Nielsen Hayden, though, that significance is
> no
> > > > longer in doubt.
> > > >
> > > > There are two questions that matter here.
> > > >
> > > > 1) Is Teresa Nielsen Hayden a source worthy of citing in matters
> > > > related to publishing?
> > > > 2) Does Making Light definitely contain material by her?
> > > >
> > > > The answer to both is unquestionably yes. Here endeth the
> discussion.
> > >
> > > Not really. Blogs have no editorial oversight, and their contents are
> > > ephemeral - that is, they can change without notice, leaving evidence
> > > of that change.
> > >
> > Newspaper stories online regularly change without notice.
>
> When they makes changes they note that the online version has changed.


You mean, "they should note". It's certainly not universally done.