[WikiEN-l] The real Occam's razor and AGF: stop it before it begins

K P kpbotany at gmail.com
Sun Jun 17 23:55:04 UTC 2007


On 6/17/07, Steve Summit <scs at eskimo.com> wrote:
> Thomas Dalton wrote:
> > But that's the whole point - there won't be any evidence of abuse
> > even if she's the worst edit warrer ever
>
> Well, besides all the prima facie evidence of being the worst
> edit warrior ever.
>
> > since all the evidence would be hidden by the fact that she's using TOR.
>
> If someone is being abusive, is suspected of being a sockpuppet,
> and is found to be using TOR, that's another pretty good nail in
> their coffin.
>
> > We have no way to know if she's hiding behind it or using it
> > legitimately, and that's why it is banned.
>
> Not quite.  It's banned (as I understand it) because if editor A
> is editing from 12.345.678.910, and editor B is editing via TOR,
> and B is suspected of being A's sockpuppet, we can't say, "Aha!
> You're using the same IP address as A!"  But it seems to me we
> could note that they're using TOR and block them as a sockpuppet
> on that basis -- *after* they're suspected/accused of being a
> sockpuppet.
>
> The claim that productive contributors can't/shouldn't/mustn't
> use proxies is tenuous at best.
>
Well, besides all the prima facie evidence of being the worst
edit warrior ever.


Oh, thanks for stating the obvious.

KP



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