[WikiEN-l] [[Daniel Brandt]] is gone again

David Goodman dgoodmanny at gmail.com
Fri Jun 15 05:49:08 UTC 2007


I can't easily thing of anything more harmful to WP.  The only
possible way of improving policy is to get new people in, and the way
admins get their training is by participating in AfD's.
Most people here think decision making in WP is much too narrowly
concentrated in the first place, and for senior people to propose
shutting junior people out shows an amazing unawareness of the general
feeling.
For senior people to think that ordinary wikipedians can't tell the
contributions of anonymous POV-pushers from anonymous well-intentioned
people shows an amazing unawareness of actual dynamics in discussions.
It wholly confirms what I said earlier today, that there is no admin
or editor (myself included), whom I trust to always have common sense.
 Tony & SV, don't you realize how such sentiments can be used against
you?

DGG

On 6/14/07, Tony Sidaway <tonysidaway at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/15/07, Slim Virgin <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/14/07, Tony Sidaway <tonysidaway at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I'm not proposing that we go down that path, but it's a very
> > > respectable position that deserves consideration.
> >
> > There have been various suggestions in the past. (1) That only admins
> > be allowed to edit policy pages, and we could extend that to BLP
> > issues, which would include BLP AfDs; (2) same as (1) but using a
> > minimum edit count rather than adminship; (3) that only users willing
> > to identify themselves be allowed to be edit BLPs or decide on BLP
> > deletions or policies. I do think it's time we started discussing
> > these options seriously.
> >
>
> I do think it might help a bit.  The number of editors who take part
> in policy discussions and process pages is relatively low in any case.
>  In connection with another matter, I'm sending my scanned passport
> off to Wikimedia in a few days anyway, so it isn't as if we don't
> already require it for some functions.
>
> Would it help? Well I don't know overall. But it would make
> accountability better.
>
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