[WikiEN-l] CSD A7, hilarity ensues

Todd Allen toddmallen at gmail.com
Tue Jun 12 13:22:04 UTC 2007


Mark Gallagher wrote:
> G'day Anthony,
>
>   
>> On 6/11/07, Jeff Raymond <jeff.raymond at internationalhouseofbacon.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Matthew Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Ah.  however, the standard at CSD is not proof of notability but an
>>>> assertion of it.  Admins are not supposed to evaluate the article
>>>> against [[Wikipedia:Notability]] and unilaterally decide if it meets
>>>> it.
>>>>         
>>> Yes.  Sadly, too many admins just look at the tag.  Plenty of fault to
>>> go around.
>>>
>>>       
>> Is an "assertion of notability" supposed to be harder or easier to
>> obtain compared to outright "notability".  Because it seems to me that
>> in order for an article to assert the notability of its subject, if
>> has to either: 1) be about a notable subject, or 2) contain
>> falsehoods.
>>     
>
> Notability is a tricky subject.  I'll give you an example: bands.
>
> Suppose I was the lead yodeler in The Flailing Hairnets, one of the 
> premier bands performing music in the genre of Mexican Nasal Yodeling. 
> However, we had not released two albums on a major label or done enough 
> of the other things required by [[WP:MUSIC]].
>
> AfD may well decide that we are significant enough in our genre to be 
> worth an article, despite the fact that we fail [[WP:MUSIC]].  Then 
> again, they may not.  Are we notable?  Regardless of what AfD decides, 
> that's not something that can be dealt with by a single admin and a 
> single clueless RC patroller spending 30 seconds apiece skimming the 
> article and reaching for a button on VandalNukerPlus or whatever the 
> latest semi-auto toy is called.
>
>
>
>   
There's one very easy way to show you're notable: source. If there's a
ton of source material out there about you and your yodeling, we should
have an article on you. If there's not, we shouldn't-even if you -have-
released two major-label albums, had a number-one hit, whatever the case
may be.

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