[WikiEN-l] Fair use redux; the second coming of hell; Are we a free content or aren't we?

geni geniice at gmail.com
Thu Jul 19 16:00:26 UTC 2007

On 7/19/07, WikipediaEditor Durin <wikidurin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Reviewing five days worth of uploads, we are (at least this month)
> going to upload
> about 76 thousand images. Fully 33 thousand of them are or will be tagged as
> non-free content.

A significant number will be deleted.

> Let THAT sink in for a bit. 33 thousand per month. Over a year, assuming
> growth, we're looking at a whopping half million images uploaded over the
> next year under a non-free license.

Probably a bit less but not to bad given likely artice growth in the
same period and that maybe 1/3 -1/2 will be deleted.

> We need a culture change. We need it now.

A lot of uploaders are not exactly part of any wikipedia culture.

> The English Wikipedia is no longer a free content encyclopedia and is
> not working towards our mission of providing neutral educational content
> under a free content license.

No longer?

> Either we need to drop the charade that we are a free content encyclopedia,
> or we need to harshly restrict image uploads until better tools are in place
> to handle the overwhelming deluge of non-free content we are being hit
> with on a daily basis, and the overwhelming mass of non-free images
> we are currently suffering under is reviewed.

Can't. Would be throwing away too much free content.

> If the people are on this mailing list are unable to make decisions on
> this, who should I take this matter to?


> I'm of the understanding that Jimbo
> wanted this list to be the main source of business work, so to speak.
> Yet, the support I've seen regarding fair use issues brought up in an
> earlier thread is weak at best. Is there another place I should be taking this?

Not really. Short of a foundation ruleing there are unlikely to be any
significant changes in our upload system without a software change.


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