[WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"on attack site link policy
fredbaud at waterwiki.info
Fri Jul 6 19:36:15 UTC 2007
>From: William Pietri [mailto:william at scissor.com]
>Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 12:53 PM
>To: 'English Wikipedia'
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkkkkkkkkkk site link policy
>Fred Bauder wrote:
>> I'll never accept linking to personal attacks on Wikipedians. I don't care how futile it is considered to be or how bad such "censorship" is. And it a site makes a regular business of attacking Wikipedians, not criticizing, but attacking, I will oppose linking to the site at all. I can see only good coming out of supporting other editors and only harm coming out of tolerating their humiliation.
>I agree with the principle -- we should treasure and support our editors
>-- but I don't think the rest follows in all cases.
>For example, I once linked to what could easily be read as an off-wiki
>personal attack on me. That was very helpful, as it made the situation
>clearer to fellow editors, and resulted in me getting the assistance I
>needed. A blanket ban would have made my life as an editor worse, not
>Rather than making the judgment based on the thing linked to, I think
>our judgment should be based on the way we are linking. Linking to a
>personal attack can be done as a personal attack, of course, and that
>should be treated like any other personal attack. But it also can be a
>way to defang the personal attack. It can be a way to show what kooks
>the attackers are. It can shine a light on things that fester in the dark.
>Stepping back, links to contentious material can certainly be helpful in
>discussing and building consensus around whatever the new do-not-link
>policy ends up as. After some random clicking around on the sites whose
>names should not be spoken, I still haven't seen anything particularly
>horrific. I'm not saying it isn't there, of course. I'm just saying that
>if some people can see a problem and others can't, they are unlikely to
>ever come to consensus on the severity of the problem, let alone the
The remedy was applied after a personal attack on MONGO was featured on the Main Page.
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