[WikiEN-l] How to stop Encyclopedia Dramatica from makingattack articles on

[Tony Jacobs]

>Do they have any real content at all?
>

Of course they have "real content".  It's basically falls into 3 categories:

There's documentation of internet memes and inside jokes, which is often 
accurate, and much more thorough than our documentation of the same, because 
they have no WP:V or WP:NOR restrictions.  A lot of this content comes from 
4chan and related sites.

Secondly, they've got a lot of satirical material relating to sexism, 
racism, homophobia, and basic fear and intolerance against every demographic 
group you care to name.  Some people think they're racist and hateful, 
others recognize it as a caricature of intolerance, intended to be funny.

Third, they document Internet "drama", mercilessly poking fun at people 
whose online activities they find to be ridiculous.  Most of their targets 
are LiveJournal users, with some bloggers and podcasters, and they do seem 
to have a special place in their hearts for Wikipedians.  It's a sort of 
gonzo-journalism style documentation, because they're not above creating 
drama and documenting it at the same time.

Personally, I think that if we calll them an "attack site" and make a big 
deal out of their nonsense, that we're just creating more drama, and handing 
them free content.  It seems to me that the reasonable reaction is to note 
that what they do has nothing to do with writing an encyclopedia, and to 
pretty much ignore them.

If you want to stop them making "attack articles" about Wikipedians, one way 
is to refrain from generating drama.  There's also a drama-positive 
situation existing where both wikis nurture misconceptions about the other.  
As someone who appreciates both wikis, I continue to explain to each that 
the editors of the other are actually human beings, and not some kind of 
monsters.  If they stop making fun of Wikipedians, it'll be because they 
decide we're cool after all, not because we declare war on them and somehow 
win.  Since I happen to think that Wikipedia is cool, I think this is an 
attainable goal.


Tony/GTBacchus


>From: "· Firefoxman" <enwpmail at gmail.com>
>
>Do they have any real content at all?
>
>On 1/24/07, Mets501 <mets501wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Encyclopaedia Dramatica would definitely fall under Obscene/Tasteless 
>and
> > Pornography
> > It's basically just a nonsense attack site, mostly on high-profile
> > Wikipedians
> > --Mets501
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wikien-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:wikien-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of . Firefoxman
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:31 AM
> > To: English Wikipedia
> > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] How to stop Encyclopedia Dramatica from making
> > attack articles on us
> >
> > What is it? I looked it up on WP but it was deleted. The site is
> > blocked<
> > http://www.arlington.k12.va.us/filter.html?URL=http://encyclopediadr
> > amatica.com/index.php/Main_Page&IP=158.59.199.125&CAT=GPORN&USER=DEFAULT
> > >at
> > my school, so I cannot check the site.
> >
> > On 1/24/07, Stan Shebs <stanshebs at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > . wrote:
> > > > As you know, Encyclopedia Dramatica has attack articles on many
> > > > Wikipedians.
> > > >
> > > Geez, how can you even tell? The place looks like a teenager's
> > > bedroom, probably not coincidentally.  I don't see how any ISP would
> > > take any of the random ravings seriously.
> > >
> > > Also, it's useful as a motivator  for here - WP would look like that
> > > if all the vandal fighters went on wikibreak for a month. :-)
> > >
> > > Stan
> > >
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