[WikiEN-l] Forgive and forget

Rob Smith nobs03 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 7 19:45:43 UTC 2007


On 1/6/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:

>A full blown arbitration could do that.  Especially if the earlier steps
>are bypassed.  Mediation should work to find a common ground for agreement.

>Ec


>>from  Rob Smith <nobs03 at gmail.com>   11/27/06
>>to  Fred Bauder <fredbaud at ctelco.net>
>>date Nov 27, 2006 7:42 PM
>>subject Private message
>>mailed-by gmail.com


>>Let's cut to the quick.  When Berlet proposed circumventing WP:DR ("I
>freely confess I have a vested interest in this...")

>>http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-November/032066.html

>>and you acknowledged the wisdom of circumventing official WP:Dispute
>>Resolution policy, "I agree with this."

>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-November/032068.html

>>I well understood how WP:DR was being sacrificed to Foundation issues
>>and the threat of defamation suits, etc.  I never pressed this aspect
>>in my defense publicly.  I continued the assume good faith in your
>>judgement, actions and opinions, as I do now.  The record shows I
>>never participated in any of the recusal requests.

>>Clearly there are problems with the Dispute Resolution policy, which
>>my experience could be helpful for others in the future.  But to
>>continue to scapegoat me -- a user with no reputation for personal
>>attacks prior to ArbCom (I don't think anyone ever even accused me of
>>it) -- only darkens some of the shadowy perceptions out there about
>>Wikipedia's internal processes.  I believe in fact, my interactions
>>with other users, prior to ArbCom, was almost a model of civility,
>>focusing on the article and not personal bullshit & biases.  And this
>>can be verified.

>>I send this to you privately because I understand some of the
>>difficult positions you were placed in.  All I ask for now is fairness
>>and reconsideration.

>>Thank you.

>>Nobs01


Mediation was interrupted in this case; and I never ceased AGF with
the Committee.  I discovered Arbitration doesn't exist to right
perceived wrongs, rather to protect the interests of the Foundation.

Nobs01



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