[WikiEN-l] Citizendium on quality
joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu
joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu
Wed Dec 19 23:47:42 UTC 2007
And no one uses that format other than Wikipedians anyways. What make
more sense
is to have the archives for .en automatically link [[blah]] to the article on
blah in the English Wikipedia and similarly for all the other lists that focus
on a specific project. That would actually be useful for people using the
archives to read old posts.
Quoting Nathan Awrich <nawrich at gmail.com>:
> Would the effect of that be to guarantee that Wikipedia is the first
> result for just about everything, and nothing else could ever get
> close? ;-P I can't see them doing it, 'tho, because Wikilinks are just
> internal and don't really contribute to the 'relevance' of a
> particular result on the wider 'net.
>
> On Dec 19, 2007 2:48 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Insufficient geekitude. References are just academic.
>>
>> Someone needs to propose to Google that they auto-expand [[Wikilinks]]
>> to Wikipedia URLs ;-)
>>
>> -george
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2007 8:46 AM, Nathan Awrich <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You know you're a wikiholic when you add references to e-mails!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 19, 2007 11:16 AM, Charlotte Webb
>> <charlottethewebb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On 12/18/07, joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu <joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu> wrote:
>> > > > Larry raises very good points. I think he overestimates how
>> much people
>> > > > prefer quality to easy access but I might be cynical.
>> > >
>> > > Ah, but cynicism is a virtue. Read-access is cake. Write-access, even
>> > > to fix a minor grammatical error[1], is subject to excessive
>> > > restriction.
>> > >
>> > > On 12/18/07, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > That is pretty much what citizendium is relying on. That there is a
>> > > > "huge potential demand" for perfection instead of "just good enough".
>> > > > I don't see that this is a gimme, but it could be true. I cast my lot
>> > > > with "just good enough", so will have to forego perfection.
>> > >
>> > > "I appreciate the best, but I'm settling for less, 'cause I'm looking
>> > > for the next best thing."[2]
>> > >
>> > > On 12/18/07, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Of course, the flipside of the argument is that what wikipedia
>> > > > is trying is not waiting for a grand piano to appear out of thin
>> > > > air, but instead giving the parts of one grand piano to a
>> > > > million monkeys, and waiting patiently for the monkeys to
>> > > > assemble them into a playable instrument.
>> > >
>> > > More like we rely on them to create their own list of parts and tools
>> > > to scavenge for, and patiently wait for them assemble said piano.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe the result will be perfectly tuned but look like shit.
>> > > Or maybe it will be visually beautiful but sound like shit.
>> > > Or maybe the instrument will look and sound great, but smell like shit.
>> > > Or maybe it will look, sound, and smell like shit, but at least it
>> > > won't cost us a penny.
>> > > Nothing comes without a trade-off.
>> > >
>> > > —C.W.
>> > >
>> > > [1] (or any other issue, perhaps in the [[Rocket science]] article,
>> > > which would not benefit much, if at all, from expertise or even vague
>> > > comprehension of the subject)
>> > > [2] (C) 1983 Zevon Music (BMI), Tiny Tunes (ASCAP), Valgovind
>> Music (BMI)
>> > >
>> > >
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