[WikiEN-l] Jimmy Wales should reconsider

[doc]

Bryan Derksen wrote:
> doc wrote:
>> James Farrar wrote:
>>> Well, we could give up, shut down the project, and all go and do something else.
>>>
>> And how does that argument help? We need to admit the real problem and 
>> then try to find some real solutions - but unfortunately some people 
>> would rather shoot the messenger or assume that any major change would 
>> mean the death of wikipedia.
> 
> But IMO it's not a "real solution" to delete an article that we would
> otherwise have if only the subject of the article hadn't asked us to
> delete it. Adding the exemption for biographies already in Britannica
> would just make Wikipedia's coverage even more nonsensical and
> arbitrary. There's nothing magical about Britannica's standards that
> makes biographies problem-free and it would introduce a whopping great
> systemic bias.
> 
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Why is it that folk on this list always simply point out the problems 
with any change rather then engage constructively in finding working 
solutions?

There are other criteria we might use, such as we keep all bios on 
subjects who have had an actual biography published in any mainstream 
media or encyclopedia, or who are listed in 'Who's who' or equivalent. 
Yes, this would need a lot more tweeking.

The basic problem is that many people are resisting all change and 
simply denying that there is a real issue. Find me one OTRS regular who 
doesn't believe a radical change is both necessary and eventually 
inevitable.