[WikiEN-l] I've Kicked the Process Habit

[Oskar Sigvardsson]

Aslong as you don't go willy-nilly and do crazy stuff (there is a
reason we let an anon make a few mistakes before we zap him), this is
fine. Infact, it is how many (most?) of us use wikipedia.

Good luck! I look forward to your report on how it goes.

--Oskar

PS. Also remember to cite stuff, that policy isn't one you can just skip

On 9/16/06, Phil Sandifer <Snowspinner at gmail.com> wrote:
> [[Wikipedia:Policy trifecta]] makes it sound so easy...
>
> So I figured why not try it? After all, I've been here for two and a
> half years. I've got a pretty good idea of what we're doing here. Why
> not just stop worrying about what all the policy pages say today, and
> about what the process to list something on AfD is?
>
> So I'm not anymore. I understand [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:DICK]], and I
> especially understand [[WP:IAR]]. I understand what an encyclopedia
> is. I understand how to do good research. (I'm a professional
> academic - I teach people how to do good research. I know this stuff.)
>
> So as of today, I'm just going to go ahead and edit. Lord knows the
> rules are making me nervous and depressed. So I'll follow all the
> stuff I can remember, and not try too hard to learn the other stuff.
> If I can't remember how to list something for AfD today, I'll just
> use PROD. If I can't get it deleted via PROD, I just won't delete it.
> Someone who remembers how to use AfD can do it. If I can't remember
> how many warnings a vandal gets, I'll just zap 'em for 24 hours two
> warnings early, and call it a day. If I can't remember the status of
> blogs and personal websites as they apply to a specific topic, well,
> I'm a professional researcher. I teach people how to research. I'll
> trust my judgment.
>
> Note that this means that if you cite a policy page to me and expect
> me to carefully divine the meaning of section 14, paragraph 3, clause
> 2 of it, odds are I'll just say "Yeah, but what's ''wrong'' with what
> I'm doing?" "It violates policy" isn't enough. If it's against
> policy, it must be bad for some reason, so just explain to me what it
> does that's bad.
>
> Otherwise... well, you might drive me off the page, but you sure
> ain't gonna convince me.
>
> In the meantime, I'll be keeping [[User:Phil Sandifer/Process blog]]
> updated with anything I run into that's just impossible to handle
> without checking lots of policy pages. I'm doing this not so much
> because I'm trying to find the essential policies as because I'm
> trying to find the broken ones. I figure anything so complex an admin
> who's been editing for two and a half years can't do it is
> fundamentally broken.
>
> Not that I'll be the one to fix it. I've got an encyclopedia to write.
>
> -Phil
>
>
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