[WikiEN-l] Sep 11 memorial, systemic bias, lunacy in Wikipedians, and other fine topics (was Re: jaygy and indefinate ban)

Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher at student.canberra.edu.au
Fri May 26 09:50:37 UTC 2006

G'day Selina,

> On 26/05/06, Mark Gallagher <m.g.gallagher at student.canberra.edu.au>
> wrote:
>> G'day Angela,
>>> On 5/22/06, Mark Gallagher
>>> <m.g.gallagher at student.canberra.edu.au> wrote:
>>>> It may have escaped your notice, but the "9/11 Memorial Wiki"
>>>> is not a part of Wikipedia (IIRC it's on Wikicities, but ICBW).
>>> That wiki is not, and never was, part of Wikia (formerly
>>> Wikicities). It's a Wikimedia project with a Wikipedia URL, and
>>> the vote on meta at 
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/9/11_wiki_move_proposal shows
>>> there was never any support (including from me) of it being moved
>>> to Wikicities.
>> Yeah, as Prasad pointed out, that was a case of shooting the ol'
>> mouth off without checking if the facts backed me up first (fear
>> not, I don't do this while writing *articles* ...).  Whoops.
>> While the Wikimedia Foundation is, of course, free to host what it 
>> likes, I don't think something like this belongs at
>> wiki*pedia*.org.
> Liberalism gone crazy, there's nothing wrong with a memorial to
> 9/11...

"Liberalism" and the daemonisation thereof, gone crazy or otherwise, is 
an American concept and I do not subscribe to it.  You may wish to call 
me a leftist no-goodnik, if you like; it's not true, but it gets the 
same concept across.

> Bear in mind this is an Australian advocating it's deletion, not an 
> American.

I'm advocating the deletion of nothing.  I agree that there's nothing 
wrong with a Sep11 memorial, and I don't even have a problem with the 
WMF hosting it.  I just don't think it belongs under the Wikipedia 
domain name; WP:NOT a memorial, after all.

Note that I'm not arguing this particularly strenuously, and not 
starting any movements to have it moved (heh) to .wikimedia.org or 
wikia/wikicities.  That's the problem with us chardonnay socialists, 
we're too busy sipping lattes in inner-city Melbourne to actually get 
off our well-toned arses and do something ...

(If you got half the jokes in this post, you're probably Australian.  If 
you thought they were funny, the cheque is in the mail.)

Mark Gallagher
"What?  I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!"
- Danger Mouse

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