[WikiEN-l] Sep 11 memorial, systemic bias, lunacy in Wikipedians, and other fine topics (was Re: jaygy and indefinate ban)

Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher at student.canberra.edu.au
Fri May 26 09:50:37 UTC 2006


G'day Selina,

> On 26/05/06, Mark Gallagher <m.g.gallagher at student.canberra.edu.au>
> wrote:
> 
>> G'day Angela,
>> 
>>> On 5/22/06, Mark Gallagher
>>> <m.g.gallagher at student.canberra.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>>>> It may have escaped your notice, but the "9/11 Memorial Wiki"
>>>> is not a part of Wikipedia (IIRC it's on Wikicities, but ICBW).
>>> 
>>> That wiki is not, and never was, part of Wikia (formerly
>>> Wikicities). It's a Wikimedia project with a Wikipedia URL, and
>>> the vote on meta at 
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/9/11_wiki_move_proposal shows
>>> there was never any support (including from me) of it being moved
>>> to Wikicities.
>> 
>> Yeah, as Prasad pointed out, that was a case of shooting the ol'
>> mouth off without checking if the facts backed me up first (fear
>> not, I don't do this while writing *articles* ...).  Whoops.
>> 
>> While the Wikimedia Foundation is, of course, free to host what it 
>> likes, I don't think something like this belongs at
>> wiki*pedia*.org.
> 
> Liberalism gone crazy, there's nothing wrong with a memorial to
> 9/11...

"Liberalism" and the daemonisation thereof, gone crazy or otherwise, is 
an American concept and I do not subscribe to it.  You may wish to call 
me a leftist no-goodnik, if you like; it's not true, but it gets the 
same concept across.

> Bear in mind this is an Australian advocating it's deletion, not an 
> American.

I'm advocating the deletion of nothing.  I agree that there's nothing 
wrong with a Sep11 memorial, and I don't even have a problem with the 
WMF hosting it.  I just don't think it belongs under the Wikipedia 
domain name; WP:NOT a memorial, after all.

Note that I'm not arguing this particularly strenuously, and not 
starting any movements to have it moved (heh) to .wikimedia.org or 
wikia/wikicities.  That's the problem with us chardonnay socialists, 
we're too busy sipping lattes in inner-city Melbourne to actually get 
off our well-toned arses and do something ...


(If you got half the jokes in this post, you're probably Australian.  If 
you thought they were funny, the cheque is in the mail.)

-- 
Mark Gallagher
"What?  I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!"
- Danger Mouse



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