[WikiEN-l] welch and consensus

[abu hamza]

phil, there is no concensus, you know that,  i know that, and there are many 
references to emails on this list where administrators are not supporting an 
indefinate ban. Because it would go against the wikipedia project to ban 
newbies who rush in with all enthusiams, and little knowledge of how wiki 
works.
All that wasted enthusiam.


>From: Philip Welch <wikipedia at philwelch.net>
>Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] my week ban - which is now an indefinate ban again
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:13:28 -0700
>
>On May 24, 2006, at 2:37 AM, <andrew.j.norman at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >> Um, that's what the listserv is for.
> >>
> >> Yes, but it will be more "official" if it was recorded on Wikipedia.
> >> Also this (putting it up on WP:ANI) is the practice that seems to be
> >> more common. It's just a request, given the somewhat disputable
> >> nature
> >> of this block.
> >
> > I've put a suggestion on WP:AN for a process to quickly confirm
> > community bans and allow for review.  I agree with Prasad that this
> > sort of thing needs to be done on Wikipedia itself.  We need a
> > rapid, open and fair method for ensuring that community bans have
> > genuine community support, and it seems to me we don't really have
> > that at the moment.  Once an admin's decided on a community ban,
> > the only way that can currently be overruled is an appeal to the
> > arbitration committee, or the start of a wheel war.
>
>There are countless administrators on the listserv already. If we
>need to find a consensus among admins, we don't need to go to AN
>because we've already established it here.
>
>--
>Philip L. Welch
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Philwelch
>
>
>
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