[WikiEN-l] Policy across different languages

Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 20:53:50 UTC 2006


On 8/29/06, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/29/06, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It appears that Russian Wikipedia is about to reject Verifiability as a policy:
> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C
>
> It would be useful if someone could translate some of this for those
> of us who do not read russian.

It's a bit too long to translate entirely (and some of it seems to be
people settling personal scores -- oppose because so-and-so supports
and that sort of thing), but here's a sampling of the opposes:

"Bureaucracy = evil" -- Иваныч

"Don't see the point.  These rules are too obvious (on the level of
being fundamental principles of Wikipedia), and are thus simply
extraneous" -- Edwardбох

"Without a strict understanding of 'authoritative source', the rule is
useless and perhaps even harmful" -- Jannikol

"Our deletionist activists will start to remove the contents of the
encyclopedia at a very rapid pace.  The {{citation needed}} template
is quite sufficient" -- Юра

"Forbidding original research will be enough, in my opinion.  Extra
disputes and bureaucracy won't lead to anything good" -- Terminus

"And what am I supposed to do if my source is a paper book?" -- Ян Владимирович

"The assertion that verifiability is more important than truth seems
disputable.  And furthermore, to create the ideal article, we need to
study the actual thing, not stories about it in 'authoritative
sources'" -- Fred

"According to this rule, I cannot, for example, write about something
which I saw with my own eyes..." -- Azh7

(I haven't read the actual policy yet; I wonder how close it is in
meaning to the English one.)

-- 
Kirill Lokshin


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