[WikiEN-l] CITE nazis

[Ray Saintonge]

stevertigo wrote:

>Im not exactly the most citatious Wikipedian, but nor do I have any 
>tendency to make claims which arent easily verifiable. Over the years 
>though Ive encountered a number of Wikipedians (I wont name names) who 
>abuse or violate a clean interpretation of CIVIL by referring to CITE 
>or V as a basis for what is essentially ownership of an article; in the 
>form of a revert, rather than a constructive edit, correction, or (gasp!) 
>a collaborative and helpful attempt to find a source. 
>
>Im not sure on the stats, but it is my impression that this demand for 
>verifiability is 1) deletionistic 2) one sided, and not applied to one's 
>own person and 3) comes with some attached notion of "reliable sources" by 
>which material from any deemed "unreliable" sources can be deleted. 
>
>Thats the topic. Discuss.
>
>Wikilove,
>-Stevertigo
>
There has already been considerable response on this thread, but I want 
to give my first impressions before being influenced by other POVs.  I 
fundamentally agree.  There needs to be some priority between any two 
parts of the rules, and in most cases civility should have the highest 
priority.  There would be some exceptions such as clear instances of 
libel against a living person, but few other violations of rules have 
such immediate consequences that their correction can't wait a week.  
When adherence to rules becomes obsessively impatient it causes as much 
or more damage than the original rule violation.  We kill the patient 
with our medicine, thankful that he did not die from his original disease.

I agree with your three impressions, but I'm afraid that the second may 
be more of a truism since none of us likes to have his work deleted.  
The distinction between reliable and unreliable sources does nothing 
more than add a new level of subjectivity.  Either may be linked to an 
article about the publication where the reasons for its (un)reliability 
can be discussed.  Beyond that it's up to the reader to decide if he 
accepts the authority of that publication.

Ec