[WikiEN-l] Wheel warring

[geni]

On 4/24/06, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/23/06, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 4/23/06, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > A brief block is not the end of the world. If it drags on for a
> > > lengthy period then it's something else.  And yes, the first admin
> > > executed their best judgement when making the block; that's what
> > > admins are supposed to do.  If a second admin disagrees with that
> > > judgement, then they need to take it up with the first admin, rather
> > > than initiate a wheel war with them.
> > >
> > > Jay.
> >
> > Pulling a block is not initiateing a wheel war.
>
> Actually, it is, by definition.
>

No. I have done something to try and fix something. They have decided
to take responcibilty for the problem and try an different fix

> > If I initiated a wheel
> > war every time someone pulled one of my blocks we wouldn't be haveing
> > this conversation now.
>
> If someone pulled one of your blocks, then the wheel war has already
> started.  How you respond, of course, is up to you.

No. The first "wheel war" to recive wide attention would be the one
involeing trying to inforce a 3RR block on an admin. There is a world
of difference between that and someone pulling a 3RR block because
someone contacted them by email. In any case you have just accused
some fairly widely respect members of the old school admins of "wheel
waring".

>
> >
> > Allowing the revsal of admin actions is just a logical extension of
> > [[WP:OWN]].
>
> WP:OWN is about articles, not actions.  This is not a "logical
> extension".  A more logical extension would have to do with not
> reverting.
>

No. You do not own articles. You do not own blocks . You do not own
page protections. You do not own deletions. You do not own your
f****** Mediawiki namespace edits. You're a wikipedia admin. Your ego
can go hang and it is about time you started wearing toecaps.

> >Most revsals of admin actions don't result in any problems
> > thus it requires less rescources to do whatever and then deal with any
> > screaming afterwards.
>
> Yes, and reverting someone using the admin revert button also requires
> less resources, and you can deal with any screaming afterwards.
>
> Jay.

Rollback does not give you a comment box. Unprotection and unblock does.
--
geni