[WikiEN-l] Indefinite block and desysopping by User:Danny

[Brian Salter-Duke]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:17:13PM -0700, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Matt R wrote:
> 
> >Kelly Martin <kelly.lynn.martin at gmail.com>:
> > 
> >
> >>On 4/20/06, Matt R <matt_crypto at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>   
> >>
> >>>Kelly Martin <kelly.lynn.martin at gmail.com>:
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>>>That does not excuse reversion without discussion.  Even taking as an
> >>>>assumption that Danny had been acting on his own behalf, Erik's
> >>>>actions could easily have been the start of a wheel war, and were
> >>>>inappropriate by any reasonable standard.
> >>>>       
> >>>>
> >>>Yet, equally, that does not excuse the indefinite blocking of a 
> >>>Wikipedian in
> >>>good-standing.
> >>>     
> >>>
> >>Except he wasn't an Wikipedian in good standing; he had attempted to
> >>start a wheel war.
> >>   
> >>
> >What you are arguing is untenable. Even if we agree with your 
> >interpretation that Erik was starting a wheel-war, an indefinite block was 
> >not an appropriate reaction by any reasonable standard (to use your 
> >phrase). We kick people off
> >the project in a limited set of circumstances: when it's clear that they 
> >are hindering
> >us more than they are helping us. Danny, for all the good work that he no 
> >doubt
> >does, did the wrong thing here. For him to acknowledge this in a public 
> >forum would
> >be reassuring.
> >
> Danny's silence in this series of threads has been very loud.  He, more 
> than anyone else, is in a position to quell the flames with one short post.

> Ec

I am not an administrator and have only been around since the last day
of October last year. I have been on this list for a few months because
I like to understand what is going on in some detail. Naturally I have 
wondered about whether I should at some point aim to become an administrator. 
What is going on here makes me think that I would need very strong persuasion 
indeed to even consider it. Basically one should not have to put up with what 
Erik has had inflicted on him. Now of course I have no problem with the 
OFFICE block and I do not disagree one little bit with what Jimbo has said 
recently, but neither he or Danny have given even a hint about why Erik's 
block was justified or apologised if it was not. We do not want or need 
the full story, but we do want a hint. Administrators are volunteers. The
mushroom principle should not apply here (keep people in the dark and
throw shit over them).

[[Bduke]]

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