[WikiEN-l] To: User:Jimbo Wales Re: Indefinite block and desysopping by User:Danny

[John Tex]

Jimbo Wales said:
> Mostly, if we (any of us! for any reason!) stub a
>controversial article and demand careful sourcing for rebuilding it,
>that's fine, EVEN IF THE ARTICLE SUCKS FOR A FEW DAYS.

These are very true words.  I thank you for reminding us all that Wikipedia
is here for the long haul, and that most of the time we really can slow down
and take the time to think, and even rethink, before we decide to
[[WP:Bold]].

Having read through all the posts here, it seems to me that everyone or
almost everyone has respect for [[WP:Office]], and for [[User:Danny]] and
for the great job that Danny does.  The concern is really around
understanding what the new "rules of engagement are" so that we don't run
afoul of them.

What I would like to understand is:
1.  Are there cases where Danny needs to take [[WP:Office]] action without
labeling it [[WP:Office]]?
2. If the answer to 1 is "yes", then should we just change [[WP:Office]] to
say, "Never under any circumstances undo any action Danny makes unless you
receive permission from Danny or Jimbo first"?

As a comment, if there is in fact a need to keep things quiet and not
attract the attention that WP:Office brings, I don't think avoiding the use
of the WP:Office tag will do much practical good.  It seems the trolls and
vandals will just watch Danny's every move.  It will make more edits for
them to look at, but they have plenty of time.  Danny "only" makes 20 edits
per day.  That is a lot of edits for the person making them, but not that
many edits for a determined person to look at if they are determined.

If you can reply to my two questions I would greatly appreciate it.

Sincerely,
-Johntex