[WikiEN-l] An admin misused his privilages to block me...

Sun Aug 21 07:45:18 UTC 2005

Yes, I agree with that.

On 8/21/05, Essjay -Wikipedia- <essjay-wiki at hotmail.com> wrote:
> This raises a related point: why does the autoblocker use the name of the
> admin that placed the original block? I realize there is a benefit to having
> a specific person to request an unblock from, but I also see a lot of abuse
> of this.
> 
> Anyone familiar with the constant AOL blocks of WBardwin will recognzie what
> happens: Rather than "Admin X, you blocked someone and I was autoblocked by
> mistake" the statement is always "Admin X, you blocked me. You should be
> more careful about autoblocking AOL IP's. You admins are always placing
> autoblocks against me and I can't get any work done." as if the blocking
> admin has any control over the autoblocker!
> 
> We can't see the IP of the person we are blocking, in order to know if it is
> an AOL IP, and we can't see the IP of anyone who is autoblocked (it is
> masked on the block list). Autoblocks don't show up in our blocklog, so the
> only recourse we have is to either not block anyone for any reason, or once
> we place a block, spend the rest of our lives refreshing the blocklist every
> thirty seconds in order to immediately unblock everyone who is ever
> autoblocked.
> 
> Can something be done to either 1) remove the admin's name from autoblocks,
> and/or 2) make autoblocked IPs visible both in the block list and the admins
> block log so that we can watch for AOL IP's? (Both would be the best
> solution.) As it is, all we can do is sit back and wait to be attacked for
> things that are completely out of our control.
> 
> Essjay
> 
> >Mgm wrote:
> 
> >Have you tried contacting Andrevan about this first? The blocking
> >should always be the first person to go to if you're blocked.
> 
> >--Mgm
> 
> 8/20/05, Jack Lynch <jack.i.lynch at gmail.com> wrote:
> >You should see [[Wikipedia:Consensus]]. You seem to be thinking of
> >unanimity. I can't speak to the rest of it.
> >
> >Jack (Sam Spade)
> >
> >On 8/20/05, Dai Grepher <dai_grepher1051 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >  My user name is Dai Grepher, my I.P address is 68.41.169.128, I am
> >sending
> this message because the administrator Andrevan has misused his abilities to
> block me from editing any page but my own for 24 hours. While I know that
> this
> is a temporary block, I still believe that Andrevan should be reprimanded
> for
> misuse of administrating privileges, and I believe that he will continue to
> misuse his powers unless he is reprimanded. The message I receive when
> trying to
> edit is as follows:
> > >
> > >  "User is blocked
> > > >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> > > You have attempted to edit a page, either by clicking the "edit this
> >page"
> tab or by following a red link.
> > >
> > > Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Andrevan.
> > >
> > > The reason given is this:
> > > Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Dai
> >Grepher".
> The reason given for Dai Grepher's block is: "Ignoring consensus,
> vandalizing
> user pages. Blocked for 24 hours, as warned."."
> > >
> > >  On the talk page found here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid:_Zero_Mission
> > > I have respectfully stated that a consensus on the issue is not
> >applicable
> to the article, since I have provided a substantial amount of evidence that
> disproves the popular theory and those that have voted have clearly ignored
> the
> facts that I have presented. Also, this consensus does not reach beyond the
> limits of Wikipedia to users holding a different belief and therefore does
> not
> represent the targeted fanbase. Under Wikipedia consensus policy, a
> consensus
> cannot be used to determine which side has "won" a dispute. It can only be
> used
> to see if there is a consensus, which there is not since I disagree with it
> and
> the opposition. Andrevan is using the consensus incorrectly as justification
> for
> changing the article to reflect his own opinion and also for blocking my
> account.
> > >
> > >  I have suggested that the article remain ambiguous, and not bias toward
> their side or my own while dispute resolution takes its course. The others
> debating the issue and myself have agreed to contact mediators and
> arbitrators
> to resolve the issue fairly. Andrevan makes it clear on the Zero Mission
> talk
> page listed above that he believes the popular theory and has stated orders
> to
> change the article to directly contradict me (Dai Grepher, found under the:
> The
> article should not be ambiguous, section of the article), which shows a
> direct
> prejudice against my theory and a complete disregard of the facts that I
> have
> presented that at the very least seriously question the popular theory.
> > >
> > >  I have edited the article to be non-partisan and I have also made
> >additions
> to the page, which by Wikipedia policy is not classified as a revert.
> Andrevan
> is the one who has reverted and vandalized the page by ignoring the NPOV
> policy.
> Also, Andrevan has not posted warnings of blocking my account on my talk
> page,
> as Wikipedia's policy for handling vandalism states. I however have posted
> these
> required steps on his talk page and also The Missing Link's talk page
> because
> they continue to change the article to be biased.
> > >
> > >  The second reason, an accusation that I have vandalized other user
> >pages is
> untrue. Andrevan is misusing his powers to preserve his own personal belief,
> rather than protecting the page to be non-biased and allowing dispute
> resolution
> to take its course. By doing so, and blocking me, he is hindering the
> peaceful
> resolution of the dispute. I respectfully request that the administrator
> Andrevan be given the full reprimand that he deserves.
> > >
> > >  I urge you to please look into this matter at the talk page listed
> >above,
> and handle the issue responsibly. Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > -Dai Grepher
> > >
> > >
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