[WikiEN-l] Copyright situation

[steve v]

JW wrote: 
>Merely "breaking Iranian law" isn't particularly
worrisome.

Not unless they first obtain some nukes to help them
enforce their particular notions of IP law.

SV

--- MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Regardless of where a certain text comes from. It's
> copyrighted as
> soon as the author puts it on paper in a tangible
> form. Some
> governments give up their copyrights over this
> material, but I think
> anything that can be traced to a written source
> that's not
> specifically released under the GFDL or released
> into the PD by it's
> author is off limits to Wikipedia regardless where
> it comes from.
> 
> --Mgm
> 
> On 8/18/05, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> > Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> > > There are problems with that:
> > > 1) I believe the Wikimedia Foundation would be
> breaking Iranian law by
> > > distributing those material to Iran, that is,
> serving its pages to
> > > Iranian readers. If it wishes to use the
> material, it should block
> > > Iran from its readership.
> > > 2) It's not only the government, and other
> Iranians may wish to sue
> > > the Wikimedia Foundation.
> > 
> > Well, although I agree with you about the ultimate
> point here (we should
> > not violate Iranian copyrights, even if it is
> legal to do so in the US),
> > I don't find these two arguments to be the most
> compelling.
> > 
> > First, if we are breaking Iranian censorship laws,
> then so be it.  (I
> > have no idea, actually, but I would imagine that
> we are.)   Merely
> > "breaking Iranian law" isn't particularly
> worrisome.
> > 
> > Second, I think the point is that such use would
> be legal in the US, and
> > if so, I don't see that Iranians would have much
> of a way to sue us,
> > except perhaps in Iran, which would be more or
> less pointless.
> > 
> > I think the most compelling argument is that we
> want to encourage broad
> > re-use, including in Iran, and if Iranian
> copyright laws are more or
> > less as sensible as the laws of other places, then
> we should follow
> > those laws, regardless of ongoing disputes between
> the US and Iran which
> > may prevent an actual treaty.
> > 
> > --Jimbo
> > 
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