[WikiEN-l] Re: Viajero/Zero and Lance6 - POV terms

[sannse]

It's rather pedantic and irrelevant to the discussion, but Shipman isn't
denying anything any more - he's dead.

--sannse

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Richards" <marich712000 at yahoo.com>
To: <wpmail at pcbartlett.com>; "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Viajero/Zero and Lance6 - POV terms


> Well, there comes a point where a fact is no longer
> disputed by any significant number of people. I don't
> know whether Harold Shipman still denies murder, but,
> if he admits it, then surely calling him a murderer is
> justified and NPOV. If he disputes it, then calling
> him a 'convicted murderer, a charge that he still
> denies' seems fair.
> Mark
>
> --- Pete/Pcb21 <pete_pcb21_wpmail at pcbartlett.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Geoffrey Burling wrote:
> >
> > [Examples]
> > > *President Bush, alleged cocaine abuser
> > > *The CIA allegedly sold drugs in Los Angeles to
> > fund the Contras in Nicaraugua
> > > *Kenneth Lay, indicted for corporate fraud
> > > *Martha Stewart, convicted of insider trading
> >
> > > I think is a solution that would nicely fit with
> > the rules of NPOV.
> >
> > I thought that too. Interestingly though UK
> > broadcasting rules are more
> > relaxed about this.
> >
> > For instance, programmes do not have to say "Harold
> > Shipman, convicted
> > of mass murder,...". They can, and do, say "Mass
> > murderer Harold
> > Shipman...". Once someone has been convicted of X,
> > that person doesn't
> > appear to have recourse if someone calls them an
> > Xer.
> >
> > Is this a case where WP NPOV exacts a higher
> > standard than supposedly
> > neutral TV news programmes?
> >
> > Pete
> >
>
>
>
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