[WikiEN-l] Fwd: National Alliance article (was Communist Censorship)

[Fred Bauder]

Wikipedia is not a vehicle for political advocacy and progaganda. (from
[[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]]). His statement, "We are not White
supremacists because we do not feel the need to rule over other people of
different races, we simply want seperation because we feel this is best for
our people.", whether true or not, basically says it all. He is here editing
in order to advocate a political position and engaging in disseminating
propaganda to that end.

Fred


> From: David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:04:37 +0100
> To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: National Alliance article (was Communist Censorship)
> 
> Personally I'm almost entirely unconvinced the recent editor was not
> Vogel - not only did the favourite topics match, the characteristic
> spelling errors did too. But let's see if sweet reason gets a
> response. If neo-Nazis^Wwhite supremacists^Wseparatists are going to
> edit, at least they can damn well do so properly.
> 
> 
> - d.
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:58:51 +0100
> Subject: National Alliance article (was Communist Censorship)
> To: Robert88 <rchamberlain at gmail.com>, wikien-l at wikipedia.org
> 
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:07:00 GMT, Robert88 <rchamberlain at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Plain libel and communist censorship supported on Wikipedia?
>> I recently edited an entry entitled "National Alliance". This is an entry
>> regarding the American White Nationalist organization. While you state that
>> we are White supremacists and a White supremacist organization, this is
>> blatant and unacceptable libel. Your article also states that we are an "anti
>> semetic" group. Again, another clear case of libel. We do not hate Jews, and
>> we do not hate Arabs or other people that speak Semetic languages. We are
>> avidly Anti-Zionist, Anti-Immigration and pro-White. We are not White
>> supremacists because we do not feel the need to rule over other people of
>> different races, we simply want seperation because we feel this is best for
>> our people. I also added other business entities that were owned by the
>> National Alliance which were removed. Please explain why I was banned from
>> editing the article and why the libel is still published on Wikipedia.
>> Thank you for your time.
> 
> Sorry, thought you were Paul Vogel, who is banned for a year for
> grossly obnoxious behaviour. Did the block notice say which IP range
> it was? Let me know and I can unblock it now.
> 
> If you dispute the content of the article, I strongly suggest you
> reply with solid and checkable references. On a highly contentious
> topic, solid and checkable references are about the best way to avoid
> this sort of dispute over facts or wording. Third-party ones are best,
> but ones from the organisation in question are of course relevant.
> Don't worry too much about formatting if you're not sure, just make
> sure they're in and someone will clean them up. Solid and checkable is
> essential, because you can be sure people will check them and
> challenge if they consider them dubious.
> 
> 
> - d.
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