[WikiEN-l] Defense of "anti-Semitism" charges during Arbitration at Wikipedia

Mon Apr 26 23:22:40 UTC 2004

Check these out and then decide for yourself if such
allegations constitute "anti-Semitism" or really just
factually accurate "criticisms" by Paul Vogel?

http://www.cosmotheism.net

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==Request and discussion==
The original request for arbitration and additions
thereto are at [[Wikipedia:Requests for
arbitration/Paul Vogel]].
==Requests for comment==
[[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paul Vogel]]
==Evidence==
Postings to the wikipedia-en mailing list:
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012167.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012170.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012171.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012172.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012175.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012176.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012177.html]
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-April/012179.html].
[[User:Silsor|silsor]] 22:34, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

Request for userid and revert warning
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:24.45.99.191#3_Revert_Warning]

Relations with community and responses to attempts to
moderate. see personal pages[[User talk:24.45.99.191]]
and [[User_talk:65.125.10.66]]

Adding link to [[David Duke]]'s material to Judaism
site  See also
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Judaism&diff=3188709&oldid=3188557]
and
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Judaism&diff=3174393&oldid=3174356]
One example of vandalism on [[Holocaust]] (April 19)
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Holocaust&diff=3259413&oldid=3259405]

Complaint against Vogel about personal harassment
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Quickpolls/Archive#User:24.45.99.191_(15_votes_/_12_for_/_3_oppose_/_80%_in_favour)
here] [[User:AndyL|AndyL]] 05:06, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Edited Snowspinner's user page twice. The effect of
both edits was to severely misrepresent Snowspinner's
statement, then add a lengthy portion of text. On the
first occasion
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:Snowspinner&dummy=1&diff=3259544&oldid=3259528],
the added text is apparently a version of
[[Holocaust]] preferred by Vogel. On the second
occasion
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:Snowspinner&dummy=1&diff=3260374&oldid=3260355],
it seems to be the excerpt Vogel wanted included, plus
Vogel's argument in favor of including it. This
argument, including the "blood curse", can also be
found on [[Talk:Holocaust]]. Vogel also posted the
same material to the talk pages of Mirv, Fennec, and
myself. I am still puzzled as to why I was included,
because at this point I had never had any interaction
with Vogel, or worked on any of the pages where he is
active. --[[User:Michael Snow|Michael Snow]] 03:58, 25
Apr 2004 (UTC)

Linked this anti-Jewish page to a message to the
mailing list, in "defense" of himself: 

http://www.natvan.com/pdf/04-24-04.pdf 

[[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] 19:14, 26 Apr 2004
(UTC)

===Articles in question===
*[[Anti-Semitism]]
*[[Cosmotheism]]
*[[Genocide]] 
*[[Holocaust]]
*[[Judaism]]
*[[Pantheism]] 
*[[Monism]]
*[[William Pierce]]
*[[separatism]]
*[[White supremacy]]
*[[White Separatism]]
*[[National Alliance]]
*[[Holocaust denial]]
*[[Homophobic hate speech]]

==defense==

===evidence of compromise===
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=National_Alliance&diff=0&oldid=3284956

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=National_Alliance&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Homophobic_hate_speech&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cosmotheism/Archive_4#compromise

===evidence of good edits being reverted, rather than
compromised, edited, etc...===
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Transhumanism&diff=3057318&oldid=3029606
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Genocide&diff=3175941&oldid=3173792
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Judaism&diff=3176439&oldid=3175476
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=William_Pierce&diff=2525863&oldid=2525820
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Separatism&diff=2530132&oldid=2530098
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=White_supremacy&diff=2459378&oldid=2458938

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