[WikiEN-l] Fwd: LYNCH MOB against Paul Vogel by the usual ilk of Censorous Lying Hypocrites, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Wales]

Well, I wasn't in Europe, but in Georgia and North Carolina.  Anyone
planning an ABUSIVE POWER GRAB is advised to note that we've scheduled
all of those for June, when I really will be away.

In any event, Paul, I just got back, and I don't know what's going on,
but anyone who writes IN HUGE CAPITAL LETTERS and doesn't really explain
what the exact problem is, loses a lot of sympathy.

Mr Paul Vogel wrote:

> EVERYONE that is a user and contributor to this Wiki
> Project NEEDS to become AWARE of what is GOING ON
> about this ABUSIVE POWER GRAB by a SMALL ILK or GROUP
> of CENSOROUS POV BIGOTS within the WIKI community
> project while Jimmy Wales is away in Europe that are
> falsely and slanderously always attempting to BAN,
> BLOCK, and CENSOR ME.
> 
> If you do let them get away with this, 
> YOU could be CENSORED and BANNED, NEXT!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Paul Vogel
> http://www.cosmotheism.net
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Note: forwarded message attached.
> 
> 
> 
> 	
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> From: Mr Paul Vogel <bannedneedle at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
> To: jwales at bomis.com
> Subject: LYNCH MOB against Paul Vogel by the usual ilk of Censorous Lying
> 	Hypocrites, Jimmy.
> 
> LYNCH MOB against "Paul Vogel" by the usual pov ilk of
> Censorous Lying Hypocrites, Jimmy.
> 
> You really should get involved in this dispute, Jimmy,
> before it gets totally out of hand and 
> a CABAL or ilk of POV Censorous, Slanderous, and Lying
> and Hypocritical BIGOTS and DOGMATISTS actually takes
> over the entire Wikipedia Encyclopedia Project:
> -PV
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Procedure for Requesting Arbitration
> Currently, the arbitrators accept referrals from Jimbo
> Wales only, which they decide to arbitrate on based on
> the voting procedure described at
> wikipedia:arbitration policy. 
> 
> Now that the arbitration policy is complete, we are
> currently taking suggestions for improvements at
> Wikipedia talk:Arbitration policy comments. After
> implementing those improvements, we'll have a formal
> vote. At this point we will take requests directly
> from Wikipedians, on this page. In the mean time,
> please make alternative arrangements or, in emergency
> cases, ask Jimbo to refer the case to us. 
> 
> 
> Current requests 
> The procedure for accepting requests is descibed at
> arbitration policy. Be brief - put a quick list of the
> nature of the complaints. Link to detailed evidence
> elsewhere if you need to. 
> 
> User:24.45.99.191 
> Paul Vogel is an anonymous user who has had temporary
> bans implemented him on several occasions for
> trolling, breaking the revert rule and making abusive
> comments. 24.45.99.191is his most common IP address
> but according to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paul
> Vogel he also uses: 
> 24.45.99.191 (optonline.net ? broadband provider) 
> 65.125.10.66 (tcius.com ? marketing company) 
> 66.2.156.* (10, 27, 36, 38, 48, 69, 100, 123)
> (algx.net NY dialups) 
> 216.99.245.* (139, 146**, 153, 154, 170, 171, 184,
> 188) (algx.net NY dialups) 
> (**) new 
> He has been especially prevalent (and abusive) on
> Holocaust, Anti-Semitism, Cosmotheism, White
> Separatism, Judaism, Genocide and associated talk
> pages. 
> 
> I wish to request a permanent block against Vogel and
> his various IP addresses. AndyL 04:26, 21 Apr 2004
> (UTC) 
> 
> It is clear that a cabal of censorous pov bigots have
> falsely accused me of being a "troll", "vandal", or of
> making "abusive comments" on some TalkPages, or of
> "breaking the 3-revert rule". This is psychological
> projection by a pov mob or ilk of lying hypocrites. I
> do request Sam Spade, to be my "advocate", and I also
> can provide evidence to demonstrate the fact that
> those here attempting to have me banned and to have me
> censored, are themselves "trolls", "vandals", and have
> themselves broken the 3-revert rule and have hurled
> "personal insults" and have abused and used slanderous
> and false personal insults and "abusive comments" as
> their own stock in trade and in their own pov bigoted
> and biased campaign of "character assassination".-PV 
> 
> 
> I agree to being his advocate, in this circumstance
> and others, until I such time as I might find cause to
> recuse myself. Sam Spade 22:30, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC) 
> Seconded. User has an unbroken five-month record of
> personal attacks, revert wars, vandalisms, and so
> forth. ?No-One Jones 04:30, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC) 
> 
> Another typical case of Psychological projection by
> Mirv, ad nauseum.-PV 
> 
> 
> And did I mention that he constantly tries to diagnose
> psychological problems based on what people write on
> Wikipedia? Not sure if that behavior is within the
> purview of the arbitrators, but. . . ?No-One Jones
> 15:40, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC):-) 
> In your case, it is quite obvious and clear, as "lying
> hypocrisy" is a key indicator of psychological
> projection. 
> 
>  
> "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy
> brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in
> thine own eye?" - Matthew 7:3 King James Version of
> the Bible 
> It is not "rocket science", Mirv.-PV 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I believe Vogel is currently under a 24 hour ban. He
> has apparently circumvented this by posting under
> 216.99.245.146 He's been on Wikipedia for months but
> has refused to register, it would seem, so he can
> circumvent discipline more easily. AndyL 02:15, 23 Apr
> 2004 (UTC) 
> Vogel was expressly banned by Hadal for 48 hours and
> has now returned (as 216.99.245.146) to continue to
> engage in an edit war.GrazingshipIV 02:19, Apr 23,
> 2004 (UTC) 
> 
> I personally don't see a reason to go through such
> contortions in order to deal with this user. He has
> made ad hominem attacks a central tactic in his
> "debates" with others and will see no compromise. The
> community has put up with him for months; much time
> and energy has been wasted in vain pursuit of accord
> with Vogel. 
> 
> As I do not see quickpolls as an appropriate method of
> resolving what should be a simple matter of an IP
> blatantly violating policy, I also do not see
> arbitration as necessary in this case. It's another
> waste of time and energy which would be much better
> spent building Wikipedia or dealing with problem users
> who bother to log in (and, for that matter, have done
> more than disrupt). I have re-blocked Vogel's primary
> (static) IP for 96 hours, as I promised I would do if
> he tried to evade the original 48 hour block. If he
> attempts to evade this block as well, I will make the
> block indefinite. I'll do the same if he does not
> moderate himself in the future. 
> 
> If others want to pledge themselves to what will
> surely be wasted effort, that's their choice. In the
> meantime, I'll do what I believe is best for the
> community. Wikipedia is not the Stormfront forums;
> Paul Vogel knows this as well as anyone else. -- Hadal
> 04:05, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC) 
> 
> Arbitators opinions on hearing this matter
> We should hear this. I believe it is Wikipedia policy
> that pushing an extreme point of view is not in itself
> grounds for banning. However there are a number of
> Wikipedia policies which by necessity must be violated
> in an effort to aggressively push a point of view. I
> think, based on a preliminary review of
> Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paul Vogel there are
> sufficient grounds for consideration of his actions.
> Fred Bauder 13:24, Apr 21, 2004 (UTC) 
> Agree with Fred; support. James F. (talk) 13:26, 21
> Apr 2004 (UTC) 
> Both sides seem to want us to arbitrate, so by all
> means let us do so. Martin 21:52, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC) 
> 
> 
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