[WikiEN-l] Kils sysop status temporarily revoked

Dante Alighieri dalighieri at digitalgrapefruit.com
Sat May 31 19:36:50 UTC 2003


At 12:08 PM 5/31/2003, you wrote:
>I have temporarily revoked Kils' sysop status on en:, someone with
>developer status on de: may want to do the same. Explanation:

*snip snip*

>In spite of my objections, this should normally go through discussion
>first before the status is revoked, but I am worried that Kils might
>delete more pages, and it seemed like an appropriate safety measure. I
>also wanted to allow others to take a look at his user talk page to have a
>track record, and this was not possible with him being a sysop, because
>then I could not protect the page or stop him from deleting it. If anyone
>feels that Kils must be a sysop again, please post.

Well, here's my take.

I doubt that Kils would delete any other pages. He seems to have been 
overly hasty in his deletion of the Viking pages (because a record ought to 
be left of the incident), but I believe that his reasoning was semi-sound. 
He was accepting responsibility for the actions of (it would appear) his 
subordinates. It sounds like Kils was the sysop that Viking claimed was a 
member of the Viking group. It also sounds like, while Kils shares the 
Viking views regarding the safety of children on the net, that he plans on 
advancing his goals in a different manner. Given that, I see no danger in 
restoring Kils sysop powers, understanding of course that they should be 
revoked if he unilateraly enages in any form of censorship. As Kils stated, 
his concern was that the article was a bit more explicit and "handbook" 
styled than perhaps was necessary or desirable in an encyclopedia. While I 
don't happen to agree, it's certainly a valid point. Given that Kils seems 
to have assured us that the Viking group is now commited to not using 
User:Viking's tactics, I think Kils status ought to be restored.

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Dante Alighieri
dalighieri at digitalgrapefruit.com

"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their 
neutrality in times of great moral crisis."
    -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
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