[WikiEN-l] The principle of fair use

[Daniel Ehrenberg]

--- Anthere <anthere6 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Julie Kemp <juleskemp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Jens said:
> > 
> > But I can't understand why this
> >
>
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image%3A843-870_Europe.jpg
> > is fair use. The map has been created for an
> > encyclopedia
> > or an history textbook. If this is fair use, is
> > there any
> > picture we may not use?
> > 
> > I reply -- 
> > 
> > This is actually interesting -- when DW (or
> Elliot)
> > put this up many
> > months ago, I asked for a reference.  I claimed
> then
> > that this map was
> > likely not in fair use.  My reasoning was as
> > follows:  When I was
> > finishing my thesis in 2000, I was desperate for
> > maps.  I found this
> > map, along with a couple others that this person
> put
> > up, at the UW
> > library.  I didn't have time to write for
> > permission, and checked the
> > copyright with the librarians, who said I could
> only
> > use it under fair
> > use if I altered the image dramatically, because
> it
> > was still under
> > copyright.  Unfortunately, I can't tell you the
> > source -- I had a couple
> > maps copied, traced the parts I needed (the
> > coastlines and rivers) by
> > hand, scanned them, and labeled them as necessary.
> 
> > Anyway, I think we
> > shouldn't use any images unless we can
> definitively
> > say where they're
> > from -- from what the librarian at my present
> > college says, one still
> > has to credit image sources for fair use, or it
> > isn't fair use.
> > 
> > Julie
> 
> Agreed. Wikipedia should have its own mapping
> system.
> Where I could put ecoregions too :-)
> 
> Which could be discussed at
> http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediatlas

Is anyone at Wikipedia a cartographer?

In responce to the first post (which I accidentally
deleted), is a cleaned up picture (obviously with most
of the pixels different, but similar colors) still a
violation of copywright? I made one if it would help.
--LittleDan

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