[WikiEN-l] The principle of fair use

Anthere anthere6 at yahoo.com
Mon May 26 18:56:27 UTC 2003


--- Julie Kemp <juleskemp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jens said:
> 
> But I can't understand why this
>
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image%3A843-870_Europe.jpg
> is fair use. The map has been created for an
> encyclopedia
> or an history textbook. If this is fair use, is
> there any
> picture we may not use?
> 
> I reply -- 
> 
> This is actually interesting -- when DW (or Elliot)
> put this up many
> months ago, I asked for a reference.  I claimed then
> that this map was
> likely not in fair use.  My reasoning was as
> follows:  When I was
> finishing my thesis in 2000, I was desperate for
> maps.  I found this
> map, along with a couple others that this person put
> up, at the UW
> library.  I didn't have time to write for
> permission, and checked the
> copyright with the librarians, who said I could only
> use it under fair
> use if I altered the image dramatically, because it
> was still under
> copyright.  Unfortunately, I can't tell you the
> source -- I had a couple
> maps copied, traced the parts I needed (the
> coastlines and rivers) by
> hand, scanned them, and labeled them as necessary. 
> Anyway, I think we
> shouldn't use any images unless we can definitively
> say where they're
> from -- from what the librarian at my present
> college says, one still
> has to credit image sources for fair use, or it
> isn't fair use.
> 
> Julie

Agreed. Wikipedia should have its own mapping system.
Where I could put ecoregions too :-)

Which could be discussed at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediatlas

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