[WikiEN-l] New domain for censored content?

[Daniel Ehrenberg]

I'm glad there's another kid on Wikipedia.

Luckilly, my school doesn't block many sites, but
because of this, it is slated to loose funding from
the state. For schools blocking Wikipedia, I don't
think they'd bother blocking only
uncensored.wikipedia.org, anyway; they'd just block
the whole thing. 

If we made that new domain name, most of wikipedia
would have to be transfered onto it. It would be
pointless. Every country says that we can't do this or
that, and soon Wikipedia is all in the uncensored
domain. The only thing that might work is putting
pictures potentially viewed as 'pornography' or just
'inapropriate' in general be put in the uncensored
domain. Once again, that would be a POV decision, but
I think we need to narrow it down to one specific
category. Instead of having the link to the picture
like there is now, it could just be added or removed
automatically based on your prefrences. In the
preferences box, you could have:
[ ] Censor inapropriate content
or something like that, checked as default. If a
blocking company were looking at Wikipedia, they
wouldn't see any potentially dangerous images.
Checking the box could also censor curse words, like
replacing fuck with f*** automatically. Of course,
this isn't really censorship (just like the below
suggestion isn't) because it can be easilly worked
around> But Google and schools will see Wikipedia as a
good, censored source. It would also eliminate the
links saying "click here for the uncensored version",
because schools wouldn't like that. If you wanted to
be really complicated, you could make a new subdomain,
u.wikipedia.org, that would use the same database but
be UNcensored by default. To get past some filters, it
would need to use a different IP adress, which would
make it very complicated to implement. This whole
thing is probably too complicated a sugestion and will
never get implemented, though. 

--- Geoffrey Thomas <geoffreyerffoeg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> My school has a very ruthless blocking system by 8e6
> technologies installed on their outgoing proxy. They
> block any page that might be offensive without
> considering the consequences. Once they even blocked
> the Science Olympiad home page shortly before
> Nationals - presumably because Geocities hosted it
> and
> also some other offensive site, and they blocked the
> IP. They occasionally packet-sniff the internet
> connection to find offensive sites. They block
> everything - even online games and the like. If
> Wikipedia starts showing offensive content it'll be
> the last day we see it at our school. There is a
> difference here between offensive-inappropriate and
> offensive-unpopular. The only ones of the latter
> they
> might block is 2600 or Join Al Qaeda Now.com.
> 
> I propose a new domain, set up like an international
> Wikipedia, uncensored.wikipedia.org, to contain all
> questionable material - pages France doesn't like,
> pages China doesn't like, pages filtering software
> doesn't like, etc. All questionable content can have
> the link '''An uncensored version of this page is
> available [[u:This page|here]].''' at the bottom,
> and
> pictures should be available by either
> [[u:Image:offensivepicture.png]] or
> [[Image:u:offensivepicture.png]] (whichever is
> easier
> for the software). Blocking programs/governments
> will
> see the rendered HTML link to <img
> src="http://uncensored.wikipedia.org/..."> or <a
> href="http://uncensored.wikipedia.org/..."> and
> block
> _that_ domain, not www.wikipedia.org (or fr., or
> zh.,
> etc.). If we know some governments/schools proxy
> IPs,
> we could even filter all u: links out to save
> Wikipedia, and sensitive users (anonymous too, by
> default, if wanted) can check an option in
> preferences
> for either "Disable uncensored links" or "Do not
> display uncensored pictures" - the latter would give
> a
> mere link to the picture.
> 
> On a side note, do we actually need to upload
> pictures
> to every Wikipedia, or can we save disk space by,
> e.g., letting other language Wikipedias link to
> [[en:Image:logo.png]]? If we can, the u: would be an
> obvious solution - as easy as setting up another
> language. If not, and this is too hard to set up,
> u's
> Image namespace (linked to [[u:Image:]]) can instead
> be required to have [[Image:]] links to itself, and
> all users would act as if "Do not display" were
> checked. (See the Image page for the picture on
> [[Kitten]] for an example.)
> 
> Also, this server should be run on a different IP -
> either that one Bomis said it had (didn't it?), on
> Pliny when Larousse becomes the absolute server, or
> on
> ibiblio. IP blocking is as common as domain
> blocking,
> so a virtual host might not suffice. (Maybe you
> could
> just get another $15 Ethernet card into a server,
> let
> that take another IP, and only serve uncensored on
> that IP?)
> 
> --[[User:Geoffrey]]
> 
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