[WikiEN-l] Re: [WikiEN-l]Japanese Emperors & broken links

[Zoe]

When I suggested he might want to be more cooperative, his response was:
"Yeah, I understand. It is partly due to that I don't think this conversation is constructive. I really don't want to partcipate in the debate about conventions and norms here. Anyway, I am not going to fix problems that I don't think big deal. People's expectations vary. While I think misspelling and gramatical errors are not a big deal, some care much about it."
Zoe
 james duffy <jtdirl at hotmail.com> wrote:Not merely are the names an utter mess and unrecognisable to people who are 
not already knowledgeable about Japanese history (though the Japanese 
Emperor CALLS HIMSELF Emperor of Japan in his own english language press 
releases, Taku refuses point blank to allow the designation 'of Japan' to 
appear in the title, or even allow Japan in brackets to appear to give the 
unfortunate viewer the slightest clue as to which part of the world the 
anonymous emperor was from - we already have a long list of undefined 
Chinese emperors, which means people who don't immediately recognise chinese 
from japanese will be presented with hundreds of emperors from unspecified 
locations in the far east!)

But it is now even worse. He created double, treble and on occasion 
quadruple redirects, screwing up up to a hundred links if not more. But he 
refuses point blank to fix them. His most recent response to yet another 
request to repair the mess was to say

I said I won't. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 02:52 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC).

The problem is he keeps changing his ideas on just what the emperor should 
be. We used to have 'Emperor 'x' of Japan' which he decided to change to 
'Emperor X' or 'X Emperor'. Then he decided to change some of those to 'x 
emperor'. Having done that, he discovered some of the emperors he so named 
actually were empresses. So he did yet another 'rename' to 'x empress'. He 
won't say whether emperor/empress should be with a capital E or a small e. 
He won't say if he intends to change the long long list of Emperors with 
capital Es to small es. And he point blank refuses to correct all the links 
his messing around have screwed up, saying ''I love to clean up messes that 
someone else made and I expect anyone else to do the same thing.''

He has also changed a page that was listed as Emperors of Japan and which 
was changed to List of Japanese Emperors BACK to Emperors of Japan. At this 
stage, the entire set of entries on Japanese emperors is screwed up, with 
unrecognisable definitions, links that are so loaded with redirects that you 
get lost in them, capital E emperors, small e emperors, emperors who have 
become empresses, empresses who may still be emperors. And a determination 
that the word Japan will never be allowed appear in the title. (To top it 
all, he tried at one stage to say in one page that Japan is a republic!!!)

Any suggestions? (short of taking a couple of valium!)

JT

>The names of Japanese Emperors have become a total mess, thanks to the 
>refusal of Taku to compromise and his desire to name people to disagree 
>with him anti-Japanese.
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>see http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirohito 
>http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TakuyaMurata and 
>http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles)
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