[WikiEN-l] 'AIDS Kills Fags Dead' slogan

[Axel Boldt]

I think some things need correction here.

--- james duffy <jtdirl at hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Cunctator's claims on the 'AIDS Kills Fags Dead' slogan cannot be
> allowed to stand.
> 
> 1. The people he said support his stand don't. Most agreed on the
> talk page that the change made was correct.

He specifically listed me, and he was correct that I support his stand.

I don't know about the others. 

> 2. It is debatable whether such an article belongs on Wiki at all.
> But what 
> is not debatable is that it does not under any circumstances belong
> under the name 'AIDS kills fags dead' slogan.

This title is precise, as that's exactly what the article is about. The
use of quotes makes clear that we are talking about the slogan, not
about the thesis. The quotes should also defend against charges of
offensiveness or even illegality, which you have brought up repeatedly.

Originally, I had created the article under [[AIDS Kills Fags Dead]]; I
consider that now as in very poor judgement and apologize.

> 3. There was full agreement on the move. The Cunctator UNILATERALLY
> screwed up everyone else's contribution by deciding UNILATERALLY 
> to change the name of a page from one there was general agreement 
> on to one there was general 
> disapproval of, but which seemed to be his pet name for the page.

I moved from [[AIDS Kills Fags Dead]] to [['AIDS Kills Fags Dead'
slogan]]. Stevertigo moved to [[homophobic hate speech]], Cunctator
moved back. The title "homophobic hate speech" had been suggested as
"better" by Oliver Pereira, and Tannin agreed. I challenged that,
asking in what sense it would be better, and did not receive an answer.
That's where the discussion stood when the move to "homophobic hate
speech" occurred. There was no general agreement nor general
diasapproval for anything, and there was certainly nothing UNILATERAL
here. 

I don't know what you are referring to when you say "screwed up
everyone else's contribution". The article was written by me; Cunctator
contributed one sentence, a reference, and some copyediting; Oliver
Pereira also did some copyediting. Everything else in the article's
history is just back and forth ping-pong without any real contribution.

> 5. Having changed the name against the will of the people working on
> the page, the Cunctator then 

This is incorrect; I explained above who actually worked on the
article.

> and about which there was universal agreement that it should not be
> used,

Incorrect.

Axel

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