[WikiEN-l] This is the English Wikipedia

[Stevertigo]

> Toby wrote: "English is not the property of English speakers".
> You might well argue that not all English speakers
> live in the US and the British Commonwealth

Yea I meant "property of "native" English speakers. Its a mandatory 2nd
language around the world, and yadda....

> >RK:Pseudo-academic, pseudo-egalitarian nonsense.  That's the
> >same kind of talk that has damaged the education of much of
> >the inner-city youth in America. Only in the last decade
> >have educators finally had the nerve to attack this point
> >of view, and to correct the course that our schools were
> >making.
>
> Toby:Of course I disagree with what seems to be another implict premise,
> that failing to adopt, or even know, the trappings of mainstream society
> is necessarily a sign of "poor education".

Brilliant. Toby is cutting through the crap like a snowplow today.

> Toby: Despite the arguments over theoretical matters and value judgements,
> it's not clear to me that *any* of us would produce different
encyclopædias.

Yeah, I did go off a bit - and in retrospect, I regret my haste - Jay's
announcement framed essentially "Im in an Edit war with a Chinese guy who
cant write English."
As "lets make a point of singling out foreigners who cant write English like
the Queen does." A very hasty and unthought response - that was perhaps
better expressed as a question of intent. Apo.... to James, and even Robert.

We all do have to clean up our points - thank you Dan, Toby, others for
being bearers of the torch...

SM