[WikiEN-l] poor writing skills of some non-english speaking wiki contributors
james duffy
jtdirl at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 9 01:24:36 UTC 2003
It may not sound politically correct to say this, but we do have a problem
on wiki with the standard of english used in some articles by people who do
not speak english as a first language. While the contributors write serious
and worthwhile articles, their limited knowledge of english can produce
articles that require major rewriting to reach a usable standard.
While that is being done on a case by case basis, some articles can stay on
wiki for ages before anyone notices, or can be found by people who are busy
elsewhere and cannot immediately do a rewrite.
Take this example from [[Chronopia]]:
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The city is the largest city in Ereb Altor. It is said to be ruled by an
great time-mage, but noone has ever seen him. Below the Emperor there is a
huge army of lesser time mages, odinary-but-still-extremly-powerful-mages
and a huge and extremly powerful army of elite-highlanders with necrological
weapons.
it is simply impossible to revolt against the Emperor, but that does not
mean that there is no crimes commited in Chronopia. Despite the ultrahard
goverment with all its time mages and undefeatable, enless legions of elite
warriors there are LOTS of crimes comitted everywhere - The Emperor does not
care for the people that live in his city, all he cares about is time
itself.
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Goatasaur has been doing a lot of work trying to turn this article into
readable english but there are many other articles in a similar vein that
are barely readable. The [[History of China]] has been disastrously written
by one person who continually refuses to accept there is a problem and
reverts attempts to revert the article to a readable version rather than one
littered with dramatically flawed translations of chinese words into
english. Quite a few of our computer programming pages have similar problems
with poor english making it difficult even for the expert, let alone the lay
person, to understand what the article is about.
Most of the contributors to these articles are genuine, sincere and doing
their best, but they are far below acceptable standard in an english
language encyclopædia and risk damaging wiki's credibility as a reliable
source.
My suggested solution: A special page perhaps listed on the Recent Changes
pages at the top, to which people when they find grammatically and
linguistically challenged articles can add them. Users when they have the
time can work through these, rewriting or rewording them. We could even
leave a message as part of the welcome note to new users telling them that
we recognise that not everyone who contributes to wiki may speak english as
a first language and that, if they have any doubts about their own ability
to write a clear article in english, or if they simply want it
double-checked, they can add it to that list.
Pending a rewrite, a tag line could be added (similar to the 'contents is
disputed' line already used) at the start of the article, indicating that
this is a first draft and is being updated and edited to achieve a
comprehendable form of english. That way, someone finding the article on a
google search would not think its standard is reflective of wiki as a whole.
JT
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