[WikiEN-l] /ban pages (was re: Viking ban)

[Ray Saintonge]

martin at myreddice.freeserve.co.uk wrote:

>My desires were:
>* Single place for discussion - if I want to know "Why was Fred banned?", I should be 
>able to go to *one* Wikipedia page, read it, and be enlightened.
>* Avoid/discourage redundant discussions
>* Ability to refactor away redundancy
>* Ability to delete page when a banned user is reinstated, or when calls for banning 
>subside and the sweet voice of reason prevails 
>
>Alternatives I can think of immediately:
>* Do it on the user talk page
>* Have a different name for the page (eg /complaints, /problems, ...)
>* Do it on a subpage of [[wikipedia:annoying users]] (eg [[wikipedia:annoying 
>users/Fred]])
>
There is much merit to the underlying concepts here.  Much of what 
passes throught the mailing list on these disciplinary issues is tough 
to read through to get at the facts.  It is often very difficult to 
separate fact from speculative allegations.  Some otherwise valuable 
Wikipedians can take offense very easily, and that can lead to heated 
debates that may not be based on fact.

I support the idea of a single page somewhere for each of our persistent 
problem people where there could be shown
    1. Just what he did that was so bad, completely dated and documented 
with links to permit others to view the offense and judge for 
themselves.  Undocumented allegations could be removed immediately as if 
they never happened.
    2. Defenses, whether by the accused or by others.
    3. Decisions taken on the matters or about the person. If a ban was 
appropriate when the ban took place, for how long, and the conditions 
for reinstatement.

If the lifting of someone's ban includes probationary conditions, 
Documenting any violations of those conditions would insure that these 
are not a rehash of what got him banned in the first place.

Ec