[WikiEN-l] Kils sysop status temporarily revoked

[Daniel Ehrenberg]

--- Dante Alighieri <dalighieri at digitalgrapefruit.com>
wrote:
> At 12:08 PM 5/31/2003, you wrote:
> >I have temporarily revoked Kils' sysop status on
> en:, someone with
> >developer status on de: may want to do the same.
> Explanation:
> 
> *snip snip*
> 
> >In spite of my objections, this should normally go
> through discussion
> >first before the status is revoked, but I am
> worried that Kils might
> >delete more pages, and it seemed like an
> appropriate safety measure. I
> >also wanted to allow others to take a look at his
> user talk page to have a
> >track record, and this was not possible with him
> being a sysop, because
> >then I could not protect the page or stop him from
> deleting it. If anyone
> >feels that Kils must be a sysop again, please post.
> 
> Well, here's my take.
> 
> I doubt that Kils would delete any other pages. He
> seems to have been 
> overly hasty in his deletion of the Viking pages
> (because a record ought to 
> be left of the incident), but I believe that his
> reasoning was semi-sound. 
> He was accepting responsibility for the actions of
> (it would appear) his 
> subordinates. It sounds like Kils was the sysop that
> Viking claimed was a 
> member of the Viking group. It also sounds like,
> while Kils shares the 
> Viking views regarding the safety of children on the
> net, that he plans on 
> advancing his goals in a different manner. Given
> that, I see no danger in 
> restoring Kils sysop powers, understanding of course
> that they should be 
> revoked if he unilateraly enages in any form of
> censorship. As Kils stated, 
> his concern was that the article was a bit more
> explicit and "handbook" 
> styled than perhaps was necessary or desirable in an
> encyclopedia. While I 
> don't happen to agree, it's certainly a valid point.
> Given that Kils seems 
> to have assured us that the Viking group is now
> commited to not using 
> User:Viking's tactics, I think Kils status ought to
> be restored.

No, if Kils is Viking, then hih sysop status
DEFINATELY shouldn'y be restored. Sysops *really*
shouldn't make pseudonyms or intimidate others. But I
haven't seen enough evidence that Kils is Viking.
--LittleDan

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