I see that particular quote from Lila as
problematic, but returning to
the general topic of retweeting Wikimania conversations, that sounds like
it could be fun.
Pine
On Jul 17, 2015 2:31 PM, "Ed Erhart" <eerhart(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
--Ed
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Getting a little off-topic here, but I still don't see being reckless
> as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of
> experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you
> learn. That's to be encouraged.
>
> Joe
>
> On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert,
>> discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can
>> sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving
>> forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be
>> exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be
>> considerate and patient."
>>
>> Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or
>> heedless; headstrong or rash. 2.
>> Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
>>
>> Pine
>> On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland"
<jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Recklessness is very okay. See
http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes
>>>> need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular
quote
>>>> sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better
quote
>>>> that can be used instead.
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander" <
>>>> jalexander(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to
>>>>> sound revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it
shouldn't sound
>>>>> like that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> James Alexander
>>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland <
>>>>> jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects
however.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not
>>>>>> publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pine
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara"
<jbarbara(a)wikimedia.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break
your own
>>>>>>> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander <
>>>>>>> jalexander(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think
it's a good
>>>>>>> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones
from
>>>>>>> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to
bring attention
>>>>>>> to the ongoing talks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James Alexander
>>>>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy
>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland <
>>>>>>> jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about
Wikimania
>>>>>>> talks etc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
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