Pine, I think you're splitting hairs here...
--Ed
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Joe Sutherland <
jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Getting a little off-topic here, but I still
don't see being reckless
as necessarily a bad thing. You build and learn from these sort of
experiences. You're reckless once, you're reverted, you talk about it, you
learn. That's to be encouraged.
Joe
On 17 July 2015 at 15:05, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> BRD is different from recklessness. Quoting: "The BOLD, revert,
> discuss cycle (BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus. It can
> sometimes be useful for identifying objections, keeping discussion moving
> forward and helping to break deadlocks. Care and diplomacy should be
> exercised. Some editors will see any reversion as a challenge, so be
> considerate and patient."
>
> Dictionary def of "reckless" from Wiktionary: "1. Careless or
> heedless; headstrong or rash. 2.
> Indifferent to danger or the consequence."
>
> Pine
> On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, "Joe Sutherland"
<jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Recklessness is very okay. See
http://enwp.org/WP:BRD .
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On 17 July 2015 at 14:50, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Encouraging boldness is ok, and new good-faith editors sometimes
>>> need that encouragement. Recklessness is not ok, and this particular quote
>>> sounds like it's encouaging the latter IMO. There must be a better quote
>>> that can be used instead.
>>>
>>> Pine
>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:58 AM, "James Alexander"
<jalexander(a)wikimedia.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I think the context comes out ok on that. It's meant to sound
>>>> revolutionary :) even if given our history perhaps it shouldn't sound
like
>>>> that ( because it's been a core thing since the start).
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James Alexander
>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy
>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:16, Joe Sutherland <
>>>> jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Be bold" is a major, MAJOR thing on Wikipedia projects
however.
>>>>
>>>> On 17 July 2015 at 10:12, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Without broader context for that quote, I would suggest not
>>>>> publicizing that widely. Wikipedia is not an anarchy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pine
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015 8:01 AM, "Juliet Barbara"
<jbarbara(a)wikimedia.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this one deserves one from wikimedia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @RosieStepGood: Best sentence so far: "Be bold; break your
own
>>>>>> rules." @lilatretikov #Wikimania
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James Alexander <
>>>>>> jalexander(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Traditionally we've done it some. Personally I think it's
a good
>>>>>> thing to do especially from @Wikimedia with more limited ones
from
>>>>>> @Wikipedia. Is a cheap (less work then a blog etc) way to bring
attention
>>>>>> to the ongoing talks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James Alexander
>>>>>> Legal and Community Advocacy
>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>>> +1 415-839-6885 x6716
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 09:47, Joe Sutherland <
>>>>>> jsutherland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we start RTing people who are tweeting about Wikimania
>>>>>> talks etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
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